When you say rob people, can you like give the viewers a little context about what that means?

I do a thing, I call it silver teaming.

It's like I even got a website, silver-team.org now to explain it because I don't do red teaming.

Red teaming is an offensive security term for when people go in and emulate an attacker and then they give a report to the executive saying, this is what, where your failings are.

Purple teaming is where red teamers work with blue teamers and then report to executives about this is what we learned, this is what we've done and what we discovered.

Silver teaming, I report to the employees.

I go in and become like, I use red team tactics and I try to be the worst thing I can have to you.

This guy was

When you say rob people, can you like give the viewers a little context about what that means?

I do a thing, I call it silver teaming.

It's like I even got a website, silver-team.org now to explain it because I don't do red teaming.

Red teaming is an offensive security term for when people go in and emulate an attacker and then they give a report to the executive saying, this is what, where your failings are.

Purple teaming is where red teamers work with blue teamers and then report to executives about this is what we learned, this is what we've done and what we discovered.

Silver teaming, I report to the employees.

I go in and become like, I use red team tactics and I try to be the worst thing I can have to you.

This guy was

When you say rob people, can you like give the viewers a little context about what that means?

I do a thing, I call it silver teaming.

It's like I even got a website, silver-team.org now to explain it because I don't do red teaming.

Red teaming is an offensive security term for when people go in and emulate an attacker and then they give a report to the executive saying, this is what, where your failings are.

Purple teaming is where red teamers work with blue teamers and then report to executives about this is what we learned, this is what we've done and what we discovered.

Silver teaming, I report to the employees.

I go in and become like, I use red team tactics and I try to be the worst thing I can have to you.

This guy was

So how what back you, you know, you know, put you into security, how you started, what got you interested and how you started, you know, working security?

I started working security because I'm very old back in 2000 when I was working at the help desk.

A friend of mine who's a friend of mine now, but it was my boss, Tim Smith.

asked me if I wanted to do network security or computer security.

And I was like, what? I could do security and computers? Because I was doing security, physical security before then.

And so I was like, yeah, sign me up.

So I started doing what we call now the blue team, the defender's role, where I was trying to protect But even when I was protecting our companies and the companies I worked for and the banks that I worked for, I was thinking of it like a hacker.

And was that a moment when you started that is, you know, this is for life?