I'm just wondering, what do you mean by this?

You know, maybe just to give a bit of context and background on the way that we work at Apollo as well.

And so when we think of sustainability, it's very much embedded, if you will, and integrated across asset class.

And so for context, Apollo has trillion dollars of assets under management and operates both in credit and in equity.

And so our sustainability team really mirrors that.

So we have teams that are aligned with our credit teams and with our equity teams.

Again, that integration and that notion of embedding it really, I'll give you examples and maybe walk through both sides of the equation.

how do you really go from just talking points to seeing real change