[laughs]

... and we found that out about each other, our minds exploded.

We were like, "How could this possibly be?" And for him, he's like a normal white guy from Queens, New York.

Passionate Rangers fan because of his grand- grandfather.

Him and his grandfather used to watch hockey together.

But I'm an atypical hockey fan just at the time I was growing up, young Asian woman, not a lot of Asians at MSG going to hockey games.

We were, we were it in the '90s, me and my sister, and then I met in college some, some other Asian hockey fans.

Right.