
Jay Winter
American historian and author
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Aug 13, 2026
One True Book Club: Under Fire, Part 3--with Jay Winter
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Mark CirinoHOST
And I wonder, a hundred years later, if you find that it is under-read or underappreciated or underrated, and if so, why?

Jay WinterGUEST
Well, I think the importance of, uh, Barbusse's Under Fire is that it is first-person testimony, uh, about what combat in the First World War was by someone, uh, who went through it and suffered terribly as a result of his military service.

Jay WinterGUEST
So it's a, an autobiographical, uh, account of a kind that was meant to strip away the glory of war as, I would say, produced or marketed i-in the popular press.

Jay WinterGUEST
Uh, his voice was the very first to break through what was called eye wash by soldiers, namely the, uh, heightened, uh, language of bravery, uh, and of, uh, nonchalance of soldiers who faced things that you and I could only barely imagine, uh, facing.

Jay WinterGUEST
He'd had to serve as a French citizen, but he, he was a, a supporter of the war.
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