we

were, had no nothing.

And I got back from the meeting.

I was actually kind of depressed because I realized that the only way that only person that could actually save this network was me.

And so I called out all the big guns I had.

I called Regina Meredith, who I thought was the best interviewer I'd ever seen.

I called George Norrie.

I'm going to bleed you dry.

i if you don't mind maybe telling us a little bit more about your history with uh with david

yeah i first met david in maybe 2005 at a conference and i'd written an article called alchemical kubrick about 2001 being a work of alchemy and got like five million hits and he came out to me he just profusely congratulating me on my insights, completely like blown away.

I was really famous and I'm like nobody.

And at the time I was really nobody.

And so we got instantly bonded.

And then in seven years later, when I got hired to basically run Gaia as a startup, you know, I went to a meeting my first managers meeting and they read the statistics and we were losing $1.5 million a month.

Uh, we had 3000 subscribers and, uh, we were had no nothing.

I'm going to bleed you dry.

You actually see everything.

There you go.

That's exactly what they're teaching them.

They're teaching them how to go out of their body, how to astrally project, how to become a remote viewer, how to spy on your neighbors, how to spy on your corporation that you're working for, how to be in meetings that you're not invited to 'cause you remote viewed them.

Um, [coughs] that's what they're doing, and then that's all fed back to some kind of profiling mechanism, AI probably driven now, but before that, just computer driven.

And then, uh, profiles are created on, on not just the people that are in the program, but people that are around them.

So because they're, they're...

He never created it.

My question is, what do you think Kubrick was privy to that he knew about this? Especially at a time when it wasn't out as much, right? This movie came out in the 90s, right? Late 90s, yeah.

Yeah.

I think that Kubrick probably attended the famous Rothschild Ball where they all had the masks on in 1972.

He was a young director, but he just had two big hits, Clockwork Orange in 2001.

He was at the height of his power.

He lived in London.

He shot the scene of the orgy at the Rothschild Mansion where that party took place.

Have your views on alchemy changed at all, or have you incorporated new interpretations into some of your theories on alchemy?

Mm.

And, um, uh, if you talk to them, and I have talked to them, many of them, uh, they all have a story where they were taken out of their school.

Somehow, some way, they were taken out of their school and put into a different place for a short period of l- of their time.

I believe that's where the memories were implanted, and the whole, and the whole scenario was put in, again, to deflect and distract from whatever reality is really going on.

And so it's just another, just another way to do it.

And, uh, so I, I don't even know.

Only guy that I've ever talked to that I believe was 100% sincere was a, he was a science advisor for Ronald Reagan, and he was about 75 years old.

Yeah.

[laughs]

Yeah.

It's like, you know...

And, you know, we're really stuck here in the Charlie Kirk, although I'm leaning one way now more.

But, you know, we have two choices it- with the...

Forget Tyler Robinson.

He didn't do anything.

[laughs]

But you're also saying, I think you're saying, aren't you, that all of the astronauts who were supposedly on the moon cavorting for the cameras, uh, are lying?

Well, you know, uh, that's a re- really good point.

Um, I'll, I'll, I will bring up two points which are very important in, in response to that.

First off, Buzz Aldrin wrote a book when he got back called Return From the Moon, and in that book, on the...

He, he reports, and you can read the book, you can get it on Amazon, um, he says that on the one-year anniversary on, in, on Jan- July 20th, uh, 1970, he was in Vegas at a big celebration for the one-year anniversary, and he stood up in front of the, uh, a crowd for really the first time.

And a reporter said to him, "Hey, Buzz, tell us what it was like, what it was really like to be on the moon." And this, I'll paraphrase what Buzz says.

He says, "A, my stomach began to become nauseated.

Uh, don't you think?

Do you think that they've been doing this for a long time to perpetuate the upcoming UFO narrative that they may have had to use?

Yeah.

The, um, the abduction and all of that has to be understood in a context that really h- no one really discusses, and that is...

The first thing you have to understand is there's a very close connection between the occult underground and the intelligence agencies, and there's always has been.

Okay? Initially, it- it started out that the intelligence agencies used occult terms to talk about things so that no one understood what they were saying.

But what they did was they, they kind of got married, and it- and it's been a long marriage.

It started in, like, the 1880s when the Office of Naval Intelligence was d- um, dickering around with Theosophy and A- Madam Blavatsky.

If there are chimera or hybrid-type creatures, could this maybe explain what a lot of people consider cryptids or dogmen, maybe Bigfoot? I don't know.

Yeah

... by a plasma bomb? 'Cause that's what a nuclear bomb is.

So, um, then right after all the nuclear tests, all of a sudden two strange things began happening, um, uh, uh, uh, in the world.

First was, uh, UFO sightings everywhere.

All through the '50s, when I was growing up, uh, nobody's ever seen a UFO before, now everybody was seeing 'em.

And, uh, then there would be alien encounters with beings in these UFOs, and the beings would always have the same message, all through the '50s and '60s and '70s.

It's, "You are ruining this planet.

Okay

What do you wanna say about David Wilcock and, and what went down?

Uh, well, first off, you know, he and I worked together for five straight years, uh, creating wisdom teachings on Gaia TV.

I was his producer.

It was a very close relationship, and it w- I produced-- I believe we produced the best show that Gaia's ever produced.

And, um, uh, and, um, for the first three years, we were really good friends and, um, talked on the phone probably two or three hours a week discussing what we're gonna do next on the show and all other things, you know, crying on my shoulder when f- when his girlfriend left him, that kind of thing.

And, um, uh, so, you know, he was a friend, and I miss him, and I'm, I'm deeply saddened by what he did and, um, a- and what drove himTo it.

Because you see, I'm one of the few people that not only do I probably work closer with David than anyone else that David's ever worked with, but, um, I knew David before Corey Goode came into the, our lives, and then I knew David after.

All right

Mm-hmm

... which is very unusual for a film.

Uh, extras are just people that come in, you pay 'em 50 bucks a day, and they're just happy to be in the movie, right? But these extras are, like, real moving parts of the movie, but he did it so under the table that you don't notice it.

You just don't notice it until somebody like me tells you.

Then, oh, wow, who are those guys? Why are they constantly in this movie, right? And that's why, because they're the, uh, henchmen for the cult.

They make sure that the cult works right.

They make sure that nobody s- tells anybody anything, that everybody's in danger if they, if they know something, and, um, that's their role.

So then they spliced in the stuff with Nicole Kidman and the Hungarian guy, 'cause there was no other way around it.

Now, did you think at the beginning of the onset of this in 2020 when you first noticed the madness behind the agendas that things would have progressed as fast as they have?

No, there's no way.

I never thought that they would...

Excuse me.

I never thought they would kill the golden goose, first off.

And so... what they discovered was that they put the Porsche in the garage for almost two years, and then they tried to take the Porsche out and give it a drive, but everything fell apart in the Porsche during the two years, and it all has to be fixed.

And You know, the oil was in the engine too long without being with just sitting there and damage the engine.

And I think that it's a big joke to them often that they can just tell us what's actually – what exactly they're doing to enslave us on the TV or through media or – tv shows or whatever music uh and uh and we're just not even still not gonna know what the hell's going on and we're just gonna take it

I mean, that would really end the entire debate and the entire conspiracy, right? You just throw a freaking rover up there and then it just, it ends all the speculation, but they don't.

Well, I was on, I think George Norrie's radio show one time talking about the secret space program and a caller called in and he said that he worked at, I can't remember what base it was, And he was the courier on the base.

In other words, he went from building to building handing out mail, right, and receiving mail, right, to send.

And he always went to this one building.

It was a top-secret building.

The doors were always locked.

So he always had to, like, finagle the mail under the door.

But Donald Trump has fired Pam Bondi, the U.S. Attorney General, dismissing a loyalist who reshaped the Justice Department but failed to please presidents fixated on prosecuting political enemies and frustrated with the politically explosive release of the Jeffrey Epstein files.

So it's pretty incredible the depths that we're finding out even about our own health care system.

Yeah, I highly recommend this documentary that's going around on the internet.

The germ theory is over, I think it's called, or something like that.

Really, really good documentary about all the tests that they gave to try to prove that you could pass a disease on from one person to another, and they couldn't do it.

Hundreds and hundreds of tests.

literally disgusting tests where they're putting mucus from sick people into the nostrils of healthy people, and yet none of the healthy people ever got sick.

And so we have to look at what else is going on.

Now, is it one group or are they fighting against each other? I mean, do they want,

You can access the entire episode now on our website and all podcast platforms.

That was the cringiest thing ever.

Erica comes out in her green.

What level of grievance is she in right now with her sexy green outfit? But, you know, I'm not going to say anything.

But, you know, yeah, it's a strange time we're in where... we can see reality through the internet, but they get to deny the reality.

They can say, no, that's not what happened.

I saw it.

And I think that we did that with JFKX, and we won't really get credit for that, but I'm pretty sure we just opened up the floodgates with JFKX.