Hmm

... where we would share every other month, you know, we'd be responsible for topics.

And Chris and Heidi always had, um- About a five to 10-minute, um, discussion on security.

It was kind of...

It was Chris's thing.

He would, he would run through the headlines, and this is, um, dating back to prior to us all using AI for coding.

And so s- and, and it isn't, hasn't been very long, and wow, what a, what a jump.

But that's a, that's a nightmare.