Mm.

And, and then it, and then it suddenly opens up a can of worms 'cause then as you grow as a business, you're looking for more artisans and craftspeople who, you know, we- the UK just isn't really geared up for promoting that to the industry.

So, you know, one of the, one of the struggles that we, that me and my management team had were saying, "We just can't find people.

We can't find people, A, on the, uh..." You know, we have an apprentice program.

We were saying, "We just can't entice younger generations to begin to join us.

If there's anybody already out there skilled, they're already bedded in with a company and probably enjoying what they're doing." It's a bit of a dying trade, so, so we found ourselves hitting that wall.

But then also as a company, we do pride ourselves in being probably up there with the best top five in the world, I would say, as bespoke furniture makers in the high end of the superyacht marketplace and the high-end residential side.

What actually makes a standout submission for these awards to you as a judge?