How about you, Jay? How did you feel?

Yeah, very similar to what Matt was saying in terms of the, well, what I found most impressive was the lighting and the sound, especially outside, you know, the thunder and the rain.

That was amazing.

I think I spent most, to be honest, I spent most of the demo outside, I think.

Just the lightning, the rain, the sounds, just that atmosphere.

That was all brilliant.

You know, I was focusing on like the mud and the puddles and the grass.

And at the very least, what else might there be? And like you say, just little elements like that that make you wonder, okay, what are they going to do with that in the full game? That was cool to have hinted at in this demo.

But because the stakes and the budget of these music videos were so low, he was kind of forced to give directing actors a try.

Directing actors as a young person, as a new person, is probably the most intimidating thing.

I knew about camera, I knew about sound and editing and everything else, but I, I hadn't really worked with actors that much.

So it also gave me a chance to just try that.

Every opportunity to make something is a chance to learn, and he's carried a little bit of those early karaoke lessons with him throughout his career.

career.You have to develop a little bit of tolerance for misery when you make movies.

I mean, it's obviously a lucky thing to get to do, but there's never enough budget, there's never enough time.

You're always trying to do something, you know, again, that may exceed your resources and, and exceed your own capabilities.