that you led.

And it was watching some of the therapy methods being taught and obviously the practical elements that we had to go and do.

And it was watching people...

It wasn't me having the lightbulb moments, it was me watching other people have the lightbulb moments.

Because obviously when it happens to you, you sort of internalise it and sort of just think, oh, that's just me thinking this.

But actually watching an entire room full of people all have a lightbulb moment at once and go, fuck.

This works.

If people are listening to this podcast and they're thinking, right, I like the sound of this, what else can they look forward to?