Can you give us a sense of who's helping you through this?

Well, I think, first of all, it shows, frankly, JP Morgan, but more Jamie's ability to convene.

If you're on the council, you're really going to participate.

And so we've seen that.

We have people from our own board.

Phoebe Novakovic, who's the CEO of General Dynamics.

Alex Gorski, the former CEO of Johnson & Johnson.

How important are private companies in this story? I think

Mm-hmm.

What are the costs? What are the gating items, if you will? Uh, where would you want to do them and the like.

And so that's just one example.

I think the critical minerals is another example.

But you also then start to get into m- more manufacturing, making more and more things here, what we can do, what the cost differential is.

And I think that's where people like Michael Dell and Jeff Bezos and others...

Remember, this is-- we have 25 on our way to 30 people in our group, but we're tapped into the entire-- Jamie, the operating committee, the leaders across the firm have really embraced this and been super helpful at bringing all these companies to bear with their ideas and creativity.

Mm-hmm