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Sep 22, 2026
222: Recovering Masculine Initiation with Jay Heck (Part 2)
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2:40MorganHOST
But if you have, let's jump into the second and final episode featuring a conversation between me and Jay Heck with Being Sons.

Jay HeckGUEST
A phrase that you brought up with me in one of our offline conversations, second half.

Jay HeckGUEST
Am I really there? Oh God, am I really in the second half? What are some of the most important lessons from the first half that you're carrying into the second half? Is there anything that really pops out to you that says, now that I learned from the first half, I can really saddle up with God in the second half?
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24:45MorganHOST
And in the same spirit, while we have a moment, being sons, and this is an inflection point for what God's entrusted to you, I would love on behalf of just my own heart and whoever would be listening to this series to hear what's going on in this moment for being sons.

Jay HeckGUEST
Yeah, it's a big, it feels like a big moment, certainly significant for me as a son to move into more of a little bit more complicated role We are becoming our own 501c3.

Jay HeckGUEST
praying every day as I get up, God help me for every question that I get answered, another 10 questions are going to get put before me today.
221: Recovering Masculine Initiation with Jay Heck (Part 1)
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26:15MorganHOST
So I think I share that story as an example that impossible is the safest place, and it's the most restful place, and it's the holiest place, and it's always offered by God in a portion that's exceedingly kind and available because He knows who we are, and He knows where we are, and He meets us right where we are, and it's a breath away.

Jay HeckGUEST
And, and Morgan and I share-- have had several conversations about our failures in raising daughters and our joys in raising daughters.

Jay HeckGUEST
And one of the things that, that you pointed out so well, Morgan, is just relinquishing and saying, "God, you're her father."
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27:32MorganHOST
Yeah.

Jay HeckGUEST
"So do the impossible, and help me do what I can do without taking on the part that is truly impossible for me.