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Jay Greene

Jay Greene

Education researcher, Director of Research at Do No Harm and Senior Fellow at the Defense of Freedom Institute; formerly University of Arkansas education-reform professor and Heritage Foundation fellow.

Oct 30, 2026

4:08
Does it matter to you how the other 20 sports do? It
4:12
definitely matters because I feel like when they do well, it's a different kind of energy around.
4:17
Winning, as we know, cures all.
4:20
So when everybody is doing well, which we have a lot of teams doing well, I think that it's good for the environment.
4:26
So, no, I love when all those teams are doing well, and I don't think that they should blow them up because it's an opportunity.
4:34
for these kids, and I think that sports teaches a lot of valuable lessons that, you know, whether you're going to be a professional or whatever you're going to do in life, sports teaches valuable lessons.
4:44
Like, you know, you text me and told me to be here at 540 Sharp, but in my mind, I need to be there 15 minutes early.
7:11
And I don't know if he did it, but he came damn close.
17:18
What was your early start in policy?
17:22
So I was an academic.
17:27
You know, at first I wanted to be a school teacher.
17:32
And I had this favorite high school history teacher who I contacted when I was graduating college.
17:38
And I said, I'm thinking about being a history school teacher like you.
17:42
Like, I want to be like you.
17:44
And he said, don't do it.

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its cause.
21:36
Mm-hmm.
21:36
Um, and, um, and so I think we helped demonstrate that.
21:41
And so we...
21:44
I mean, I entered the school choice movement, in a sense, um, at its very modern beginning.
21:52
Uh, the very first school choice program in modern era was passed in 1990 in Milwaukee.
21:58
Uh, and I conducted randomized evaluation of the Milwaukee program with Paul Peterson, who was my advisor at Harvard.
22:05
And, um, and since then I was kind of hooked on, on public policy research.
27:08
Hmm.

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