When do you think the founder actually starts seeing the kids as more of a

leader? Founders generally, and this is, I'm making a joke, but it actually is less about a founder and more about a system is that generally someone that starts the business, right? A private company, culture matters.

Like this is who I am.

Whether I would like to admit that publicly or not, it's a huge part of who I am in the world.

if at any point this becomes way bigger than me, where there are many people that serve it, not just customers getting economic, emotional, social, intellectual value, spiritual value from it, but they're actually employees that they're getting economic and all of those values, it becomes a part of their life, because it's not just the job, they're bought into it.

And it's big, it's now this whole thing is a part of me.

So I started something and then 40 years from now, it's still me.

A little soon, I promise.