Just for the audience, kind of what is that shift, and why is it needed and, you know, if you want to touch on what Brinca's doing about that, that would be great.

Yeah.

I mean, I think, you know, the, what Greg just said is a great lead into that.

And, you know, Brinca's been, for a long time, have been tackling that initial problem you just mentioned of, you know, we need to apply context, both business, environmental, to, you know, for that great example at the end, right? A low vulnerability could be in our envir- in particular environment as, um, you know, important or introduce as much risk as a critical vulnerability sitting on an internal, uh, system that's in a segmented network.

You know, let's go, let's go address that low vulnerability that's externally exposed and exploitable, right? Like, that's the, that's the basis of a, I think a, a mature- Risk-based vulnerability management program.

But now we're starting to see, kind of as you mentioned, is, you know, what is exposure management? I mean, exposure management really is, you know, leveling that up to saying not only do we need to think about, you know, the vulnerabilities, but how do other, you know, areas of risk and exposure in our environment, um, correlate? And I think this is where the, the exposure management comes in, is how do I start to take into account misconfigurations on a particular, you know, system? Um, you know, maybe, you know, MFA got turned off on a system inadvertently.

You know, that's not necessarily CVE-based vulnerability, but it introduces risk.

Um, so Jay, to, to give the audience, you know, a real world example, you know, talk about a case example, what Brinca did, and sort of how this actually works in a practical sense.