We, we alway- we like to ask here, um, you know, like, what worked for you? Like, if, if somebody was, was, was trying to get themselves...

Um, the best thing that worked for me was hitting rock bottom, um, and going to...

I went to... 'Cause like I said, I went to rehab about 13 years ago, and, um, like, didn't really hit bottom at that point.

Like, I, I still was like, "As long as I don't drink, as long as I don't do coke, uh, I can do ecstasy, I can smoke weed, I can do shrooms.

I can do these things and just, like, um, be a healthy, normal guy." And, um, like, obviously that didn't work.

I, um, I had to dig myself a little d- a little deeper and really find out that, um, uh, California sober, whatever you wanna call it, uh, it was gonna be complete abstinence from all, excuse me, mind-altering substances.

Drugs and alcohol-

Yeah.