And would you say that was a natural transition then from the pharmaceutical background and I guess the roots that had been laid down by your grandfather in the 40s? Was that a natural transition into this service industry and CDMO or were there sort of changes that needed to be made to the business?

Well, I would say that we have the know-how, we have the internal know-how.

And that was, you know, when you're talking about injectables, aseptic filling, to have the right know-how, I think, is the most important item.

However, providing services to customer, you know, it's a different thing.

So you need to change the culture.

You need to change the values.

So that's why since the very beginning, we tried to separate the business to a different, you know, group of people.

Was it always, was that always going to happen? Was it a kind of natural thing for you or were there options outside of the?