Like, from your perspective, being there on the ground, so to speak, and having just come from another part of the industry, like, what, what do you see as being our challenge to try and make that leap from a oil and gas centric in Aberdeen to being renewable energy to being floating wind?

Yeah, I think the oil and gas expertise is a brilliant starting point, but it needs to translate into that kind of repeatable offshore wind delivery in terms of projects.

So it's kind of going back to the previous points that were made.

The reality at the moment is that we're seeing many supply chain companies that are only catering to a very small percentage of renewables projects compared to even, well, domestic and overseas oil and gas work, and that's just a reality of what projects are actually real for them and what their order books are looking like.

I don't see the problem being a lack of capability.

Certainly, we have a world-leading supply chain here in the northeast of Scotland and also round about the rest of the UK.

It's that lack of real visible projects in the pipeline, and it's been said before already.

So can you just c- explain a little bit more about, you know, what, what are the differences there? What is deepwater wind?