
Jason Pack
Retired FBI Supervisory Special Agent and former FEMA external affairs officer (Ground Zero, 9/11) now CEO of crisis-communications firm Media Rep Global Strategies and a national news analyst.
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Oct 18, 2026
Oregon mourns victims of school shooting | Elizabeth Vargas Reports Full Show
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And it's just so heartbreaking, like you said, to see that little guy just having to talk about that.

Jason PackGUEST
But going back to what the mother said, like she may have not seen like anything that she would notice to be out of the ordinary.

Jason PackGUEST
But I think when we look at these types of school shootings, these little behavior patterns that people are looking for, when you have a team of investigators piecing together somebody's life in one thing, you put all these things together and it looks like oh yeah, maybe there was something there.
Oregon Police: Children Killed Were 5, 8, and 11 Years Old
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Boris SanchezHOST
When you hear that timeline, what do those details reveal to you about possible premeditation?

Jason PackGUEST
Well, that's the question that the Bend Police, the Deschutes County Sheriff's Office are gonna answer.

Jason PackGUEST
It certainly seems like they had a plan, and they were determined to get through there by going in, shooting the glass out allegedly, and then making entry.

Jason PackGUEST
And then fortunately, that, uh, concealed carry person was there to eliminate the threat.

Jason PackGUEST
And, you know, Boris, no matter what we say here tonight, nothing's gonna ease the pain of these families that have lost their loved ones and their teachers.

Jason PackGUEST
But having said all that, these teachers, these drills I think that we go through as students these days, here in Bend tonight probably saved a few more lives because they were locked down.

Jason PackGUEST
They made it harder for the shooter to get th- before that concealed carry permit could, uh, person could come and eliminate that threat.
Boris SanchezHOST
I, I wonder if you think that that person is someone that officials are, are zeroing in on tonight and, and getting their view of what happened.
Mastering Crisis Communication: Lessons from the FBI and Boston Bombing with Jason Pack
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6:55Robert TornabeneHOST
I mean, short of 9-11, where the whole country shut down for a few days, this was an entire city that shut down for four or five days while they were looking for the suspects.

Jason PackGUEST
Is that correct? Yeah, it was kind of surreal to see a shelter in place for an entire city.

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major U.S. city like Boston and the suburbs around there, Watertown, all those places that we wound up.

Jason PackGUEST
It was a tough decision to make, I'm sure, but it was the right one at the time, not knowing the other dangers that were out there and considering what had happened the night before with the attempted carjacking incident.

Jason PackGUEST
So yeah, like, uh, it's kind of like a scene out of a movie, you know, for a boy from Tennessee to be, uh, thrown up into Boston where they may not understand what I'm saying, but, uh, I'm just kidding.
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Inside Life Documenting Ground Zero Days After 9/11: 'Ordinary People Doing Extraordinary Things'
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Brittany LewisHOST
Can you take us back 25 years ago and talk about what it was like receiving that call from FEMA and being dispatched to New York City?

Jason PackGUEST
I had grown up in the fire and EMS service, uh, prior to that since I was 16, so I had a background in fire and EMS.

Jason PackGUEST
But at this time, uh, FEMA, uh, was in Greenville, Tennessee, which is just a couple of, uh, exits down from my hometown.

Jason PackGUEST
And we had, uh, converted an old grocery store into our, uh, joint operation center there.
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Report: Less Than $300 Put In Bitcoin Account Tied To Guthrie Case
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Kaitlan CollinsHOST
Our sources are stressing this person has not been charged tonight, but I wonder what stands out to you as we're learning this new information.

Jason PackGUEST
Well, Caitlin, what stands out is just the remarkable work earlier of the Operational Technology Division engineers and scientists in there putting this stuff from the slack together to be able to get and release this photograph tonight to lead to where we are now.

Jason PackGUEST
So just in a matter of hours, similar to when we flipped the posters over at the Boston Marathon bombing on stage there, we flipped those posters around.

Jason PackGUEST
They unfortunately murdered an MIT officer and then tried to kidnap a person before they wound up in Watertown.

Jason PackGUEST
At least there's a lead where this person that may have been detained, maybe we all hope it's the person, but even if it's not, it's somebody that may know him.