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Jason Lesandrini

Researcher

Sep 16, 2026

15:19
Can you share a, a story or an example from your own experience or maybe a leader that you've worked with? How did this show up for them and, you know, was there some sort of turning point after they've experienced this residual or compounding moral distress and moral injury?
15:37
Yeah.
15:38
So, uh, I'm just gonna say a caveat, just like every situation in life has an asterisk next to it, of course.
15:43
This is a long time ago.
15:45
I-- this story sort of sits with me, but I've changed kind of all the details 'cause it, you know, I don't wanna-- I wanna make sure I protect that person and them sharing what they shared with me.
15:54
So the basic idea was this: that there was a leader I was working with, one of the most outstanding people I think I've ever met in my career.
16:00
This is a long time ago.
19:08
How should a leader navigate that gap without betraying their own values or undermining their responsibilities and the trust of the organization?

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