This is, this is the exact laughter he had in the, in, in the apartment.

[laughs] So what I did was, there was one...

I was just waiting for the one day where they both go out first, leaving me ins- inside.

The moment they closed the door, I ran to Jian Hao's room.

I o- one single personally took out his mattress, and I put it on Ming Yu's air mattress, and then I put all of Ming Yu's stuff that was on the air mattress on top of Jian Hao's mattress, leaving Jian Hao's bed frame with no mattress.

Then we both, I, I meet, meet them at night, show, supper.

Then we all, I make sure we all arrive together in the apartment.

Thanks

Mm-hmm.

Um, and again, from what I've seen with all of these numbers, and I f- I feel it in the pit of my stomach for, for the parents who are well on their journey and having to make those trade-offs, because we do see that in the numbers.

And certainly as the cost of living crisis starts to bite, more of these trade-offs are happening, and people are, uh, you know, they're cutting back on their groceries in order to keep their, their childcare, or they're cutting back on education, uh, in order to just be able to keep the kids at childcare so that they can go to work, and some people are barely breaking even in, in that regard.

And what we, if you haven't had kids yet, uh, to insulate yourself against a situation like that because God knows the world is volatile as it is right now, uh, it's about tabling everything, uh, mixing and matching the things that really suit, and you'll end up with a structure that is exciting, and then let's put some numbers to it and, and then build in, well, here's a contingency.

What if one of us did lose our job because who knows? Uh, or we, if we changed our minds.

Uh, and all of these flags, these switches are things that you can do ahead.

So this, this is why we built PocketSmith-

[laughs]

Mm.

You know? So very early on I said, "Okay, what, what's funny about this?" I, I write, write, write.

And I tell another story.

So, [clears throat] so we, we go to the funeral.

Mm.

Again, it's Sereen, yeah? They were, they, they erected, like, a stage and next to the coffin so people can come on stage and tell stories about my friend, celebrate my friend.

So s- the last speaker, the headliner, is Sereen.

Do you still think that that's true and, like-