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Jason Killmer

Jason Killmeyer is a national security and immigration policy expert who served as Chief of Staff at U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) and previously at DHS's Office of Strategy, Policy, and Plans.

Oct 1, 2026

29:51
Mm-hmm.
29:52
But imagine if it was a whole country approach.
29:56
And instead of seeing the American people as an audien- a political audience that we have to plan to or have abide things, we enlist them in this effort with us.
30:07
Like, we have marshaled ourselves to do great things before.
30:10
Um, you know, after hurricanes, there's the, the Cajun Navy, right? Uh, or there's a tornado in m- ...
30:18
you know, the Midwest, there's dudes out at, like, Home Depot and Walmart self-organizing their neighborhoods in these capacities.
30:27
We're gonna have to move towards a model that dramatically relies on, like, an increased role for civilians and enforcement.

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36:13
Yeah.

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