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Jason Gruchanek
Master tabaquero trained in Amazonian plant medicine traditions, host of The Universe Within Podcast, and co-founder of the Nicotiana Rustica Project.
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Aug 11, 2026
Jason Grechanik: Sacred Tobacco, Tree Medicine & Wise Plants
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30:19Jason GruchanekGUEST
Obviously, it's a very touchy subject because, you know, I mean, again, all of these things are very tricky.
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30:27Jason GruchanekGUEST
I mean, what's correlation? What's causation? You know, I often say, you know, you could do a study, for example, where you say red meat is bad, but...
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30:41Jason GruchanekGUEST
Is that correlation? Is it causation? Was it red meat that had hormones in it? Was it free range? Did it have hydrogenated oils on it? And it's very interesting, like even today, even when you listen to very educated people, doctors even, The way that they'll use tobacco and cigarettes interchangeably is quite interesting.
35 MINS LATER

Beth WeinsteinHOST
Like, is it just like the spiritual strength, the inner strength to like stand and embody here on Earth right now? Because a lot of people, I think, don't want to embody here on Earth right now, you know, in various ways.