So when did you start getting into running? What was your reason for getting into running?

So I've always been kind of a gym enthusiast.

Never super consistent, but I always had a fascination.

And I would go.

I'd have, you know...

You'd go through these ebbs and flows in your 20s because you'd have a new friend that might do it, or maybe you want to impress a girl, and you're like, I want to get in shape.

So you'd try to find something that worked for you, but it just never really was a consistent thing.

Because