Every, every site is distinct and individual.

Well, it's, it is complicated right now because I think a, a lot of Americans think of, uh, public lands as places that, um, are to be protected and to, uh, to keep development out and, and all that sort of stuff.

A lot of Americans look at public lands as places where they should be free to roam wherever they want and the government should keep their arms off of.

A lot of people look at them as resources, as places where we can go harvest wood and minerals and things like that.

There's, there's a lot of complications right now with the desire for people to want to go tour these places uninhibited, and that conflicted with the amount of people wanting to do it.

So there's been a whole lot of talk and, and administrative changes surrounding these timed entry reservations over the last few years.

So there, a lot of the big national parks have instituted reservation systems where in advance you have to book the time and day that you're going to go in, and some people think that is, you know, that is an infringement [chuckles] on their rights, and some people think, "Oh, that's great.

Um, where do you see that?

Do you have favorites that you'd like to share that you've been to over and over again?

Yeah, Fort Sumter is really interesting because it's one of these cool coastal forts.

We have all these coastal forts along the East Coast.

where they were sort of built right after first the Revolutionary War and the War of 1812 to protect from, of course, battleships.

And during the Civil War, it was very clear that they were absolutely useless.

But Fort Sumter is where the first shots of the Civil War were fired.

And when you go there and you visit and you experience it, you take a tour out there, you get on a boat and a ranger takes you through the place.

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