As Jason, you talk to so many different people, like you just gave the example, and I know people are looking for the big story, but what's the general climate? Like when I talk to you, things are okay.

Yeah.

We're not gonna downplay the effect of tariffs or the idea of tariffs or the scary part of tariffs.

There certainly has been some effect, but it's not the horror story.

I'm not hearing the horror story, and that you mentioned the media, and yeah, they will call me up a fair bit and ask me for the sky is falling story.

There's some people laying off small numbers, and there's people hiring small numbers.

I'm not seeing hiring of 500 people, but there's some big plants in the region that are under construction right now, so in the next three, four, five years there's gonna be mass hirings i- in the region.

Yeah