Because if we look at the legal firms, they are very consultancy heavy, right? How do you see that relationship evolving with time? Because I believe that, you know, the six minute increments and all of that, that is kind of like on the path of disappearing and evolving into something else.

Yeah, look, I am of the mindset that each player in the legal ecosystem will continue to have a space.

They just will modify how they approach and occupy that space.

So what I mean by that for outside counsel in particular is outside counsel brings multiple things.

One is an understanding of a market view, a pan market view.

how others are doing it, how peers in the industry are doing it, how peers in other industries are doing it.

And sometimes that input is useful for me and there's no way I could get it but for going to outside counsel, right? That value of a firm that knows what a lot of people are doing doesn't go away, in my opinion.

Could you maybe share a bit about that kind of personal process and journey?