So can you think of a moment where you did feel heard, you did feel like the people who needed to listen were listening?

Yeah.

I spoke in front of our mayor, our Memphis mayor, and I didn't necessarily feel, feel heard by him.

I think he heard what he wanted to hear, [laughs] like most politicians do.

But I do think that the people around me truly did hear what I was saying, and they related to it in a way that crossed generational barriers and in a way that truly, like, encapsulated, like, what it means to be a young person.

And then I also think as a young person, some moments that weren't necessarily me speaking out loud, but just being in community with people who have similar ideas and goals is where I feel most heard, even if I'm not saying anything most out loud, but, like, just feeling appreciated.

It's not about, like, young people not having the capacity to lead, that we already...

So what do you want city leaders to understand a- about how important it is to listen?