... you know, for whatever reason.

So when we were actually at the Dolphins, to put that in perspective, like at the Dolphins we were getting pumped one night by St George, and that was sh- obviously terrible.

We were getting pumped at halftime, and he pulled me in at halftime, um, and he's like, "I'm gonna spray you." I was like, "Why? Am I [laughs] playing bad? Like, I scored a try and thought I was doing good." And he's like, "No, you're going fine, but I need to pick this arse up, like, off everybody." Yeah, right.

And if he'd, like, gone you and you and you, it just would've crashed.

So he goes, "I know you can take it." He literally said, he goes, "I'm gonna absolutely-" And he pre-warned you.

Yeah, pre-warned me, thankfully.

'Cause it would've been like, I would've been like- Yeah ... "What the fuck again?" Again.

Mm

Just what do you think is sort of the biggest thing that is... differentiates the contenders and the pretenders? Is it coaching, coaching staff, facilities, bit of both? Like, what do you think is the most important between those two?

Yeah, that's a good question, actually.

I reckon, um, it's a mix of everything.

Like, I reckon the difference between when I played at the Bronx and then, you know, the Titans is every week that I walked into the dressing shed, I knew every player, and I knew how they were gonna turn up.

You know, we had guys like Sam Vardo, Parker.

You know, the boys that had been there, you knew that they would turn it up every week.

You know, then you get to the teams that have got a couple younger guys and things like that.

Been great.