What is the holistic approach to flipping the switch?

Yeah.

Two things.

Structure and culture.

Again, coming back to that.

That is the virtuous cycle.

How do you have empowered everyday people? that are ready and informed and engaged to engage in civic life and the democratic process? And how do you make sure that the institutions and the leaders within them are ready to digest and respond and be effective in making decisions off of that constituent input? And I'd say right now, the situation that we often find ourselves is, you go to any town meeting or town hall and say, Typically, you see the loudest voice is kind of the one that wins, typically by shutting things down.

And that kind of sounds like that really leads into my next question, because it sounds like One of the terms y'all use is democracy renovation, right? So can democracy renovation work beyond the boundaries of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts?