So with that, Jerry, do you want to give our listeners a little bit of a background of kind of who you are and kind of how you came to this role at EDC Utah?

Yeah, thank you so much, Emily, for that kind introduction.

I'm honored to be on the podcast with you.

And I appreciate the opportunity to talk about this.

But yeah, in way of introduction, my background, originally, I studied urban planning.

And I did grow up in Utah, where a lot of your guests are, I guess.

But I studied urban planning at the University of Utah.

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