Do you think you would have set your sights on him or was it because of the environment you found yourself in that led you to find romance? Or, for example, on an app, like a lot of women our age, because we don't have water cooler moments in the same way at work, it's really hard to meet people IRL in real life, isn't it?

Yeah, I think for me, I knew I was there for a reason, you know, and I kept saying that to myself.

Everyone's here looking for someone and I've got to do that as well.

When I first saw Roger, obviously I was just thrown into the back garden and everyone was there and I was so overwhelmed and I was anxious and I didn't know what was going on.

But I just remember looking, thinking, gosh, what a lovely looking man.

You know, he's quite striking.

But that to me at the time... wasn't what it was at all I was trying to scan the room you know and I think other people had already set their sights on other people and I thought oh brilliant I'm last in everyone's got their claims and I don't like games I cannot be bothered with it I'd be happy to walk out if I thought any nonsense so so it did give you that opportunity because we knew we were there for that but like you say if I was to walk into a bar and see him and At my age now, I would not have spoken to him.

And it's been lovely to see you embrace that again because was that more on the back burner and more of sort of a hobby that you put aside for a career? But I mean, now you're singing again, aren't you?