
Janet Xuccoa
Managing Director for NZ Family Trust Services; Auckland-based professional trustee, lawyer (admitted to the Bar 2021), BCom LLB, and author of money books including Money Secrets 101.
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Aug 23, 2026
Janet Xuccoa: Managing Director for NZ Family Trust Services on what assets should be in a trust
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Mm.

Janet XuccoaGUEST
Well, well done even thinking about it, Jamie, 'cause, uh, I do know people that leave it and don't think about it, and then it can be quite messy at the end of it to try and sort that out.

Janet XuccoaGUEST
So in a situation like that, you, you really are doing as you would if you, if you were going to proceed, is you would be setting up trusts with estate planning goals firmly in mind.

Janet XuccoaGUEST
And you can actually design an estate plan whereby the partner that you leave behind when you depart planet Terra firma is well looked after, and you have assets at the same time to pass to your children.
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Tim BeveridgeHOST
Uh, Jim's asked, re: the wills, is the Public Trust a good idea, or is it better to go private through a lawyer?

Janet XuccoaGUEST
Well, um, I want to make a big disclosure here that, um, that, uh, I'm certainly not recommending, um, one or the other.
Janet Xuccoa: Managing Director for NZ Family Trust Services on what assets should be in a trust
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Tim BeveridgeHOST
do? If suddenly the police knock on their door, they'll be like, that's Janet Zakoa, we're going to sort her out.

Janet XuccoaGUEST
It's a really big clue when they don't want anything written down to start with.

Janet XuccoaGUEST
That's our first port of call because we've got to identify who the client is and where their assets have come from.
Janet Xuccoa: Your list of trustees has to be tight and reputable
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Janet XuccoaGUEST
So it used to be that you would set up a trust for the purposes of ultimately avoiding West Home subsidies, the care fees that you might have to pay if you had too much in asset value.

Janet XuccoaGUEST
So there are three tests that are completed before you get a sniff at a dollar from the government in regards to a subsidy.

Janet XuccoaGUEST
There are rules where you are allowed to put your money in, do all of your gifting, so much per year.
Janet Xuccoa: Your list of trustees has to be tight and reputable
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Janet XuccoaGUEST
So it used to be that you would set up a trust for the purposes of ultimately avoiding rest home subsidies, uh, the care, uh, fees that, you know, that you might have to pay if you had too much in asset value.

Janet XuccoaGUEST
So there are three tests that are completed, um, before you, before you get a sniff at a dollar from, um, from the government in regards to a subsidy, and I would say that the earlier the trusts are set up, the better.

Janet XuccoaGUEST
There are rules where you are allowed to, um, put your money in, do all of your gifting, um, so much per year, five years prior to actually entering into a rest home.

Janet XuccoaGUEST
But you can't, um, you can't set up a trust later on in life in New Zealand, um, put your assets in, and then say, "I have no assets now, and government, please pay for my rest home care."
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Janet Xuccoa: Your list of trustees has to be tight and reputable
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Janet XuccoaGUEST
So it used to be that you would set up a trust for the purposes of ultimately avoiding rest home subsidies, uh, the care, uh, fees that, you know, that you might have to pay if you had too much in asset value.

Janet XuccoaGUEST
So there are three tests that are completed, um, before you, before you get a sniff at a dollar from, um, from the government in regards to a subsidy, and I would say that the earlier the trusts are set up, the better.

Janet XuccoaGUEST
There are rules where you are allowed to, um, put your money in, do all of your gifting, um, so much per year, five years prior to actually entering into a rest home.

Janet XuccoaGUEST
But you can't, um, you can't set up a trust later on in life in New Zealand, um, put your assets in, and then say, "I have no assets now, and government, please pay for my rest home care."
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