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Jane Smith

Jane Smith

Sep 11, 2026

32:14
And if we don't meet our emissions targets, what happens to us? Do we just get a slap over the wrist with a wet bus ticket?
32:24
Exactly, Jamie.
32:24
And again, adhering to a very expensive piece of paper.
32:28
And let's put some, you know, some figures around this, you know, in terms of what we're trying to be meeting in terms of net zero, agri zero, carbon zero, hero zero, and the Paris peril is, you know, being modelled to be over sort of anywhere between 200,000. billion and a trillion dollars for our country if you scope that right out for what Jamie and this is the thing we should be putting that money into infrastructure etc and some of our real basics in our country in terms of health care and water storage and education and I guess this is the thing like Again, as a country, we need to actually be focused on our attributes rather than a fallacy that we're going to change anything in terms of the climate.
33:08
That is already changing and will always change in perpetuity.
33:11
So what can we do to actually be a more robust country? And it's really interesting.
33:15
We seem to be sort of self-sabotaging.
34:35
If that's what we're up against, last one to leave, turn the lights out.
16:15
And if we don't meet our emissions targets, what happens to us? Do we just get a slap over the wrist with a wet bus ticket?
16:25
Exactly, Jamie.
16:25
And again, adhering to a very expensive piece of paper.
16:29
And let's put some, you know, some figures around this, you know, in terms of what we're trying to be meeting in terms of net zero, agri zero, carbon zero, hero zero, and the Paris peril is, you know, being modelled to be over sort of anywhere between 200,000. billion and a trillion dollars for our country if you if you scope that right out for what Jamie and this is the thing we should be putting that money into infrastructure etc and and some of our real basics in our country in terms of health care and water storage and and education and I guess this is the thing like Again, as a country, we need to actually be focused on our attributes rather than a fallacy that we're going to change anything in terms of the climate.
17:09
That is already changing and will always change in perpetuity.
17:12
So what can we do to actually be a more robust country? And it's really interesting.
17:16
We seem to be sort of self-sabotaging.
18:39
Turn the lights out.
2:00
And if we don't meet our emissions targets, what happens to us? Do we just get a slap over the wrist with a wet bus ticket?
2:10
Exactly, Jamie.
2:10
And again, adhering to a very expensive piece of paper.
2:14
And let's put some, you know, some figures around this, you know, in terms of what we're trying to be meeting in terms of net zero, agri zero, carbon zero, hero zero, and the Paris peril is, you know, being modelled to be over sort of anywhere between 200,000. billion and a trillion dollars for our country if you if you scope that right out for what Jamie and this is the thing we should be putting that money into infrastructure etc and and some of our real basics in our country in terms of health care and water storage and and education and I guess this is the thing like Again, as a country, we need to actually be focused on our attributes rather than a fallacy that we're going to change anything in terms of the climate.
2:54
That is already changing and will always change in perpetuity.
2:57
So what can we do to actually be a more robust country? And it's really interesting.
3:01
We seem to be sort of self-sabotaging.
4:21
If that's what we're up against, last one to leave, turn the lights out.
14:45
Well,
14:46
it was interesting, and I heard you, it might have been a couple of weeks ago actually, Hamish, while you've been doing a fine job of covering Jamie's and Jamie's absence.
14:54
But, you know, like again, a number of your correspondents mention in passing, and I've heard you say it as well, that we need to decrease methane emissions.
15:02
And it's a bit of a shame that more people didn't listen in fifth form science, really, in terms of that methane cycle, when it's a very simple process.
15:10
As you know, grass absorbs CO2 and water, it grows.
15:13
sheep and cows eat it.
15:14
Some of that is converted into methane.
16:32
Tell us about this.
16:22
Well,
16:22
it was interesting, and I heard you, it might have been a couple of weeks ago actually, Hamish, while you've been doing a fine job of covering Jamie's and Jamie's absence.
16:30
But, you know, like again, a number of your correspondents mentioned in passing, and I've heard you say it as well, that we need to decrease methane emissions.
16:39
And it's a bit of a shame that more people didn't listen in fifth form science, really, in terms of that methane cycle, when it's a very simple process.
16:46
As you know, grass absorbs CO2 in water, it grows naturally, sheep and cows eat it um some of that is converted and that is converted into methane it enters the atmosphere and it eventually oxidizes back so subsequently to be taken up by grass again and you know essentially the the thing is um and we all know this that stable methane levels and ours is actually dropping as a country um cannot and won't be um adding any measurable warming to the to the atmosphere so why we continue you know we've got the the cool beef and the cool sheep and AgriZero, why we continue this sort of farcical subsidy at the expense of other things we could be doing like the aforementioned program that I just mentioned before.
17:28
So it's really, really disappointing that we continue to plead guilty to a crime that doesn't exist.
17:33
And I guess, Hamish, I don't know whether to laugh or cry when I hear the same leaders, you know, decry the loss of land through carbon plantations and our fuel and energy costs and our manufacturing costs, but yet they still say they support the ETS and the Paris Accord and the emissions trading scam.
18:08
Tell us about this.
1:58
Well,
1:58
it was interesting, and I heard you, it might have been a couple of weeks ago, actually, Hamish, while you've been doing a fine job of covering Jamie's and Jamie's absence.
2:06
But, you know, like, again, a number of your correspondents mentioned in passing, and I've heard you say it as well, that we need to decrease methane emissions.
2:14
And it's a bit of a shame that more people didn't listen in fifth form science, really, in terms of that methane cycle, when it's a very simple process.
2:21
As you know, grass absorbs CO2 in water, it grows naturally, sheep and cows eat it.
2:26
Some of that is converted into methane.
2:29
It enters the atmosphere and it eventually oxidises back.
3:43
Tell us about this.
22:59
It could be Chris Luxon, it could be Erica Stanford, it could be Chris Bishop, it could be Chris Hipkins.
23:04
Yes, well, my first thought, Jamie, with my Scottish Presbyterian genes was I hope they didn't spend too much taxpayer money booking last-minute regional flights to Wellington.
23:13
But this is sort of playing out a bit like the Hunger Games, and it's unhelpful, I guess, having a media that is left-leaning and really speculating and focusing more on those personality politics.
23:25
And I guess quite a good distraction for the unionists and Labour supporters because they know that they're disintegrating into irrelevance.
23:34
And of course, we've got those other parties on the far left serving up another socialist smorgasbord, Jamie.
23:41
So again, we need to move on from personality politics and actually just get the country moving because at the end of the day, this is not the captain of the All Blacks or a host of a TV show.
23:51
This is the person that will be running a team to run the country.
26:01
So in terms of proportionality, it's not a huge additional contribution.
16:37
It could be Chris Luxon, it could be Erica Stanford, it could be Chris Bishop, it could be Chris Hipkins.
16:43
Yes, well, my first thought, Jamie, with my Scottish Presbyterian genes was I hope they didn't spend too much taxpayer money booking last-minute regional flights to Wellington.
16:52
But, you know, this is sort of playing out a bit like the Hunger Games and it's unhelpful, I guess, having a media that is left-leaning and really speculating and focusing more on those personality politics.
17:04
and I guess quite a good distraction for the unionists and Labour supporters because they know that they're disintegrating into irrelevance and of course we've got those other parties on the far left serving up another socialist smorgasbord Jamie so again we need to move on from personality politics and actually just get the country moving because at the end of the day this is not the captain of the All Blacks or a host of a TV show This is the person that will be running a team to run the country.
17:33
So, again, that's really important that we actually just knuckle down and do the work, Jamie.
19:40
So in terms of, you know, proportionality, it's not a huge additional contribution.
19:48
No, but I think this is also targeting areas that hadn't been, I guess, taken into account before.
19:53
So hopefully that means that the locals and the landowners and the leaseholders people in those areas will actually have more of a say in terms of where that goes as well, Jamie.
1:19
It could be Chris Luxon, it could be Erica Stanford, it could be Chris Bishop, it could be Chris Hipkins.
1:25
Yes, well, my first thought, Jamie, with my Scottish Presbyterian genes was I hope they didn't spend too much taxpayer money booking last-minute regional flights to Wellington.
1:33
But, you know, this is sort of playing out a bit like the Hunger Games, and it's unhelpful, I guess, having a media that is left-leaning and really speculating and focusing more on those personality politics.
1:46
And I guess quite a good distraction for the unionists and Labour supporters because they know that they're disintegrating into irrelevance.
1:54
And, of course, we've got those other parties on the far left serving up another socialist smorgasbord, Jamie.
2:02
So, again, we need to move on from personality politics and actually just get the country moving because at the end of the day, this is not the captain of the All Blacks or a host of a TV show.
2:12
This is the person that will be running a team to run the country.
4:22
So in terms of, you know... it's not a huge additional contribution.
19:36
Good afternoon, Jane.
19:38
Good afternoon, Jamie, and, um, certainly it was a lovely tribute to Jim before he headed north on his final journey to get back to his family in Canterbury this morning.
19:47
So it was just on the council chamber, um, steps, and we were all able to pay tribute to, to Jim, and as the mayor said, he was a man that gave so much of himself to the community that he loved.
19:58
And, you know, he was...
19:59
Uh, I was thinking this morning, he was a living, breathing thesaurus.
20:03
You know, h- he was such an outstanding orator, um, and, you know, through his Young Farmers days, and I had a lot to do with him then throughout the regions, you know, back in the Simon Hopcroft and Robert Kempthorne days.
20:14
He was-- he just gave those competitors such a hard time in a good-humored way and gave a, you know, a, a real profile to, to that competition.
24:37
People can't afford that.
3:07
Good afternoon, Jane.
3:09
Good afternoon, Jamie, and, um, certainly it was a lovely tribute to Jim before he headed north on his final journey to get back to his family in Canterbury this morning.
3:18
So it was just on the council chamber, um, steps, and we were all able to pay tribute to, to Jim.
3:24
And as the mayor said, he was a man that gave so much of himself to the community that he loved.
3:29
And, you know, he was...
3:30
I, I was thinking this morning, he was a living, breathing thesaurus.
3:34
You know, he, he was such an outstanding orator.
8:08
People can't afford that.
0:12
Good afternoon, Jane.
0:14
Good afternoon, Jamie, and um, certainly it was a lovely tribute to Jim before he headed north on his final journey to get back to his family in Canterbury this morning.
0:23
So it was just on the council chamber, um, steps, and we were all able to pay tribute to, to Jim, and as the mayor said, he was a man that gave so much of himself to the community that he loved, and you know, he was...
0:35
I, I was thinking this morning, he was a living, breathing thesaurus, you know? He, he was such an outstanding orator, um, and you know, through his Young Farmers days, and I had a lot to do with him then throughout the regions, you know, back in the Simon Hopcroft and Robert Kempthorne days.
0:50
He was-- he just gave those competitors such a hard time in a good-humored way, and gave a, you know, a real profile to, to that competition.
0:58
And Jim and I clashed on many things.
1:00
I enjoyed him as a sparring partner in, um, in council meetings when, you know, during, for example, the proposed district plan changes, and after one of those meetings, he said to me, "You know, Jane, I can't work out whether you are an asset or a liability, but you sure as hell, um, made some splendid points, but you put the council in a really difficult position." [laughs] So you know, he would acknowledge when you did challenge, challenge him, and I guess the one, one major area that Jim and I absolutely, um, you know, we, we, we, um, agreed upon was the net zero alarmism, and, and Jim understood the costs and the opportunity costs of net zero in a sort of a Armageddon sort of net zero way, and you, you'll remember this well, Jamie.
5:13
People can't afford that.
12:49
Jane, this is climate change.
12:52
And Jamie, you know that I have to be heavily sedated before even looking at the wasteful expenditure, et cetera, that is, you know, taken and time taken up in regards to the extreme climate change modelling.
13:03
And I was really pleased actually to hear or to see that the Nats have finally come out of the climate change closet in the last couple of weeks.
13:10
And thank you to Stuart Smith for doing that, MP.
13:13
And they've said that the climate modelling that has been used by both the Crown and local councils has been far too extreme.
13:20
You know, it was a worst-case scenario.
13:22
We were going to be burnt up in a fireball by the year 2100.
14:40
talking about strange bedfellows the opportunities party now if they get in rich farmers like you are going to have to pay through the nose with the land tax
0:50
Jane, this is climate change.
0:53
And Jamie, you know that I have to be heavily sedated before even looking at the wasteful expenditure, et cetera, that is, you know, taken and time taken up in regards to the extreme climate change modelling.
1:05
And I was really pleased actually to hear or to see that the nets have finally come out of the climate change closet in the last couple of weeks.
1:12
And thank you to Stuart Smith for doing that, MP.
1:15
And they've said that the climate modelling that has been used by both the Crown and local councils has been far too extreme.
1:22
You know, it was a worst-case scenario.
1:23
We were going to be burnt up in a fireball by the year 2100.
2:46
Now, if they get in, rich farmers like you are going to have to pay through the nose with the land tax.
1:25
To help unpack it, here's Jane Smith, family engagement counselor at Dementia Australia.
1:33
Well, thank you, Anthony.
1:34
It's a really good question to raise.
1:36
It's a very, very common issue.
1:39
It may be that the dementia is causing your father to experience the shower as unpleasant in some way, and that can be around changes of perception to heat and cold, a feeling of something on the skin which he can't really interpret, the noise, of course, of a shower, and all those really complicated steps of actually taking a shower, if we actually think about what that takes, that could be confusing and overwhelming.
2:01
And he might therefore not be able to effectively communicate what he's experiencing, and I guess what we're seeing is this, he is communicating.
2:07
He's saying, "I don't want this." So that's quite a good message to listen to.
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5:36
So what are the options for my husband in the future as far as long-term care?
1:34
To help unpack it, here's Jane Smith, Family Engagement Counsellor at Dementia Australia.
1:41
Thank you, Bianca.
1:42
It's a really good question and one that many young carers have raised with myself in my work and my colleagues, of course, at Dementia Australia.
1:51
There's no doubt it's a huge and invisible job with many moving parts that you have to add to your own life when that life should be about exploring new possibilities.
2:00
And let's face it, no one probably can really understand unless they've done it themselves.
2:04
As we know, people's understanding of younger onset dementia is limited today.
2:08
And often people perhaps might reference to you.
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4:56
I'm wondering how do any other young carers manage everything? Like between work, friends, finances, my partner, appointments and full-time workload of caring, I've got no idea how to handle it all.
1:25
How do you come across a story like this?
1:28
Yeah.
1:28
Well, I find that a lot of the time in historical research it's one thing leads to another, and that when you're looking at Queensland history especially, the same names keep popping up.
1:39
And I was doing research for a book that I released about seven years ago called Ship of Death, and that was about a, a ship that brought free government-assisted passengers directly from England to Moreton Bay.
1:53
And, um, it was at a time when they were trying to, you know...
1:56
The, the convict settlement was recently closed, and they were trying to build up the town with respectable white citizens, so the government sponsored people to come out.
2:05
And typhus broke out on board, and they were all quarantined at Stradbroke Island.

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22:30
Yeah.
30:38
Talk to me, because you were at the sale, Te Mata Angus selling a bull for $168,000, beating last year's record of 161,000 to Tangihua Ang- Tangihua Angus, get it right, uh, who set the record last year.
30:56
Exactly, Jamie, and we were lucky to be at Tangihua last year because, of course, that high- highly priced bull was sired by one of our Fossil Creek bulls.
31:03
And it's just, again, I mean, I know that that's a sort of the, the, the peak of the, of, of, of the bull sales, but gosh, all of the bull sales have been strong, and that is clearly a factor of, of the positivity and the buoyancy and the, the fact that people understand that genetics are the way forward.
31:18
And, and, you know, since 1984, Jamie, we've [chuckles] had to forge our own way in this sector, and that is exactly what we've done in, in terms of efficient productivity.
31:26
And, you know, again, as a food-producing sector, um, this is happening despite all of our, you know, our sector and our, and our government trying to nail us on things, um, uh, and waste time and money on things like, um, emissions.
31:39
And, you know, uh, what actually Sainsbury and Tesco and Nestle don't understand is, is, you know, the natural carbon cycle and, and that we actually are doing our very best, um, pasture-raised, free-range, nutritionally densed, and we're not using our n- natural competitive advantage as soon as we go into those type of practices.
31:56
And I...
33:59
Talk to me about Sainsbury's and the woke eggs.
11:19
a bull for $168,000, beating last year's record of $161,000, to Tangihau Angus, get it right, who set the record last year.
11:32
Exactly, Jamie, and we were lucky to be at Tangiha last year because, of course, that highly priced bull was sired by one of our Fossil Creek bulls.
11:39
And it's just, again, I mean, I know that that's sort of the peak of the bull sales, but gosh, all of the bull sales have been strong, and that is clearly a factor of the positivity and the buoyancy there.
11:51
And the fact that people understand that genetics are the way forward.
11:55
And, you know, since 1984, Jamie, we've had to forge our own way in the sector.
11:59
And that is exactly what we've done in terms of efficient productivity.
12:03
And, you know, again, as a food producing sector, this is happening despite all of our sector and our government trying to nail us on things and waste time and money on things like emissions.
14:36
Talk to me about Sainsbury's and the woke eggs.
1:02
Talk to me, because you were at the sale, Taimati Angus selling a bull for $168,000, beating last year's record of $161,000, to Tangihau Angus, get it right, who set the record last year.
1:20
Exactly, Jane.
1:21
And we were lucky to be at Tangiha last year because, of course, that highly priced bull was sired by one of our Fossil Creek bulls.
1:27
And it's just, again, I mean, I know that that's sort of the peak of the bull sales, but gosh, all of the bull sales have been strong.
1:34
And that is clearly a factor of the positivity and the buoyancy there.
1:39
And the fact that people understand that genetics are the way forward.
1:42
And, you know, since 1984, Jamie, we've had to forge our own way in the sector.
4:23
Talk to me about Sainsbury's and the woke eggs.
34:13
Gee, that's going to sting.
34:16
Correct, Jamie, and I've been a bit bemused by the outrage in Auckland for their 7.9% increase when actually I guess some of our locals are celebrating a 22% rates increase.
34:28
I guess, again, because it does seem slightly more palatable than 45.
34:32
But the sad fact is, Jamie, that anything less than 45% increase doesn't balance the books.
34:39
and so we are simply kicking the can down the road and um and disturbingly not once have i seen an austerity budget um and so many councillors asked for this and we've actually got a really good bunch of councillors they're all functioning human beings which are you know unlike some other councils in other areas of the country um but we need to cut our cloth and you know that's something that we've all been asking for and i know it's easy for someone like me with scottish presbyterian genes to see where the savings could be made but we haven't seen that yet from the CEO or senior management and again here we are seeing the unions still demanding a 2-3% pay rise with no accountability and again I just think at the moment when you're effectively insolvent all bets are off and everything needs to be looked at a lot harder Jamie and Again, I know a lot of the expectations have come from the Crown around climate mitigation, social good, connected communities.
35:35
But you can talk about connected communities, but the reality is we can't even afford to connect our basic water infrastructure, Jamie.
35:42
So it's back to basics.
36:12
Your words, not mine.
11:59
Gee, that's going to sting.
12:02
Correct, Jamie, and I've been a bit bemused by the outrage in Auckland for their 7.9% increase when actually I guess some of our locals are celebrating a 22% rates increase.
12:13
I guess, again, because it does seem slightly more palatable than 45.
12:18
But the sad fact is, Jamie, that anything less than 45% increase doesn't balance the books.
12:24
And so we are simply kicking the can down the road.
12:27
And disturbingly, not once have I seen an austerity budget.
12:32
And so many councillors asked for this.
13:58
Your words, not mine.
1:39
Gee, that's going to sting.
1:41
Correct Jamie and I've been a bit bemused by the outrage in Auckland for their 7.9% increase when actually I guess some of our locals are celebrating a 22% rates increase.
1:53
I guess again because it does seem slightly more palatable than 45.
1:57
But the sad fact is Jamie that anything less than 45% increase doesn't balance the books.
2:04
And so we are simply kicking the can down the road.
2:06
And disturbingly, not once have I seen an austerity budget.
2:12
And so many councillors asked for this.
3:37
Your words, not mine.

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