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Sep 11, 2026
Rabobank Best of The Country: September 12, 2026
32:14

Jamie MackayHOST
And if we don't meet our emissions targets, what happens to us? Do we just get a slap over the wrist with a wet bus ticket?
J
32:28Jane SmithGUEST
And let's put some, you know, some figures around this, you know, in terms of what we're trying to be meeting in terms of net zero, agri zero, carbon zero, hero zero, and the Paris peril is, you know, being modelled to be over sort of anywhere between 200,000. billion and a trillion dollars for our country if you scope that right out for what Jamie and this is the thing we should be putting that money into infrastructure etc and some of our real basics in our country in terms of health care and water storage and education and I guess this is the thing like Again, as a country, we need to actually be focused on our attributes rather than a fallacy that we're going to change anything in terms of the climate.
J
33:11Jane SmithGUEST
So what can we do to actually be a more robust country? And it's really interesting.
The Country Full Show: Thursday, September 10, 2026
16:15

Jamie MackayHOST
And if we don't meet our emissions targets, what happens to us? Do we just get a slap over the wrist with a wet bus ticket?
J
16:29Jane SmithGUEST
And let's put some, you know, some figures around this, you know, in terms of what we're trying to be meeting in terms of net zero, agri zero, carbon zero, hero zero, and the Paris peril is, you know, being modelled to be over sort of anywhere between 200,000. billion and a trillion dollars for our country if you if you scope that right out for what Jamie and this is the thing we should be putting that money into infrastructure etc and and some of our real basics in our country in terms of health care and water storage and and education and I guess this is the thing like Again, as a country, we need to actually be focused on our attributes rather than a fallacy that we're going to change anything in terms of the climate.
J
17:12Jane SmithGUEST
So what can we do to actually be a more robust country? And it's really interesting.
The Country 10/09/26: Jane Smith talks to Jamie Mackay
2:00

Jamie MackayHOST
And if we don't meet our emissions targets, what happens to us? Do we just get a slap over the wrist with a wet bus ticket?
J
2:14Jane SmithGUEST
And let's put some, you know, some figures around this, you know, in terms of what we're trying to be meeting in terms of net zero, agri zero, carbon zero, hero zero, and the Paris peril is, you know, being modelled to be over sort of anywhere between 200,000. billion and a trillion dollars for our country if you if you scope that right out for what Jamie and this is the thing we should be putting that money into infrastructure etc and and some of our real basics in our country in terms of health care and water storage and and education and I guess this is the thing like Again, as a country, we need to actually be focused on our attributes rather than a fallacy that we're going to change anything in terms of the climate.
J
2:57Jane SmithGUEST
So what can we do to actually be a more robust country? And it's really interesting.
Rabobank The Best of The Country: August 29, 2026
J
14:46Jane SmithGUEST
it was interesting, and I heard you, it might have been a couple of weeks ago actually, Hamish, while you've been doing a fine job of covering Jamie's and Jamie's absence.
J
14:54Jane SmithGUEST
But, you know, like again, a number of your correspondents mention in passing, and I've heard you say it as well, that we need to decrease methane emissions.
J
15:02Jane SmithGUEST
And it's a bit of a shame that more people didn't listen in fifth form science, really, in terms of that methane cycle, when it's a very simple process.
The Country Full Show: Friday, August 28, 2026
J
16:22Jane SmithGUEST
it was interesting, and I heard you, it might have been a couple of weeks ago actually, Hamish, while you've been doing a fine job of covering Jamie's and Jamie's absence.
J
16:30Jane SmithGUEST
But, you know, like again, a number of your correspondents mentioned in passing, and I've heard you say it as well, that we need to decrease methane emissions.
J
16:39Jane SmithGUEST
And it's a bit of a shame that more people didn't listen in fifth form science, really, in terms of that methane cycle, when it's a very simple process.
J
16:46Jane SmithGUEST
As you know, grass absorbs CO2 in water, it grows naturally, sheep and cows eat it um some of that is converted and that is converted into methane it enters the atmosphere and it eventually oxidizes back so subsequently to be taken up by grass again and you know essentially the the thing is um and we all know this that stable methane levels and ours is actually dropping as a country um cannot and won't be um adding any measurable warming to the to the atmosphere so why we continue you know we've got the the cool beef and the cool sheep and AgriZero, why we continue this sort of farcical subsidy at the expense of other things we could be doing like the aforementioned program that I just mentioned before.
J
17:28Jane SmithGUEST
So it's really, really disappointing that we continue to plead guilty to a crime that doesn't exist.
J
17:33Jane SmithGUEST
And I guess, Hamish, I don't know whether to laugh or cry when I hear the same leaders, you know, decry the loss of land through carbon plantations and our fuel and energy costs and our manufacturing costs, but yet they still say they support the ETS and the Paris Accord and the emissions trading scam.
The Country 28/08/26: Jane Smith talks to Hamish McKay
J
1:58Jane SmithGUEST
it was interesting, and I heard you, it might have been a couple of weeks ago, actually, Hamish, while you've been doing a fine job of covering Jamie's and Jamie's absence.
J
2:06Jane SmithGUEST
But, you know, like, again, a number of your correspondents mentioned in passing, and I've heard you say it as well, that we need to decrease methane emissions.
J
2:14Jane SmithGUEST
And it's a bit of a shame that more people didn't listen in fifth form science, really, in terms of that methane cycle, when it's a very simple process.
J
2:21Jane SmithGUEST
As you know, grass absorbs CO2 in water, it grows naturally, sheep and cows eat it.
Rabobank The Best of The Country: August 15, 2026
22:59

Jamie MackayHOST
It could be Chris Luxon, it could be Erica Stanford, it could be Chris Bishop, it could be Chris Hipkins.
J
23:04Jane SmithGUEST
Yes, well, my first thought, Jamie, with my Scottish Presbyterian genes was I hope they didn't spend too much taxpayer money booking last-minute regional flights to Wellington.
J
23:13Jane SmithGUEST
But this is sort of playing out a bit like the Hunger Games, and it's unhelpful, I guess, having a media that is left-leaning and really speculating and focusing more on those personality politics.
J
23:25Jane SmithGUEST
And I guess quite a good distraction for the unionists and Labour supporters because they know that they're disintegrating into irrelevance.
J
23:34Jane SmithGUEST
And of course, we've got those other parties on the far left serving up another socialist smorgasbord, Jamie.
J
23:41Jane SmithGUEST
So again, we need to move on from personality politics and actually just get the country moving because at the end of the day, this is not the captain of the All Blacks or a host of a TV show.
The Country Full Show: Wednesday, August 12, 2026
16:37
19:40

Jamie MackayHOST
It could be Chris Luxon, it could be Erica Stanford, it could be Chris Bishop, it could be Chris Hipkins.
J
16:43Jane SmithGUEST
Yes, well, my first thought, Jamie, with my Scottish Presbyterian genes was I hope they didn't spend too much taxpayer money booking last-minute regional flights to Wellington.
J
16:52Jane SmithGUEST
But, you know, this is sort of playing out a bit like the Hunger Games and it's unhelpful, I guess, having a media that is left-leaning and really speculating and focusing more on those personality politics.
J
17:04Jane SmithGUEST
and I guess quite a good distraction for the unionists and Labour supporters because they know that they're disintegrating into irrelevance and of course we've got those other parties on the far left serving up another socialist smorgasbord Jamie so again we need to move on from personality politics and actually just get the country moving because at the end of the day this is not the captain of the All Blacks or a host of a TV show This is the person that will be running a team to run the country.
J
17:33Jane SmithGUEST
So, again, that's really important that we actually just knuckle down and do the work, Jamie.

Jamie MackayHOST
So in terms of, you know, proportionality, it's not a huge additional contribution.
J
19:48Jane SmithGUEST
No, but I think this is also targeting areas that hadn't been, I guess, taken into account before.
J
19:53Jane SmithGUEST
So hopefully that means that the locals and the landowners and the leaseholders people in those areas will actually have more of a say in terms of where that goes as well, Jamie.
The Country 12/08/26: Jane Smith talks to Jamie Mackay
1:19

Jamie MackayHOST
It could be Chris Luxon, it could be Erica Stanford, it could be Chris Bishop, it could be Chris Hipkins.
J
1:25Jane SmithGUEST
Yes, well, my first thought, Jamie, with my Scottish Presbyterian genes was I hope they didn't spend too much taxpayer money booking last-minute regional flights to Wellington.
J
1:33Jane SmithGUEST
But, you know, this is sort of playing out a bit like the Hunger Games, and it's unhelpful, I guess, having a media that is left-leaning and really speculating and focusing more on those personality politics.
J
1:46Jane SmithGUEST
And I guess quite a good distraction for the unionists and Labour supporters because they know that they're disintegrating into irrelevance.
J
1:54Jane SmithGUEST
And, of course, we've got those other parties on the far left serving up another socialist smorgasbord, Jamie.
J
2:02Jane SmithGUEST
So, again, we need to move on from personality politics and actually just get the country moving because at the end of the day, this is not the captain of the All Blacks or a host of a TV show.
Rabobank The Best of The Country: August 1, 2026
J
19:38Jane SmithGUEST
Good afternoon, Jamie, and, um, certainly it was a lovely tribute to Jim before he headed north on his final journey to get back to his family in Canterbury this morning.
J
19:47Jane SmithGUEST
So it was just on the council chamber, um, steps, and we were all able to pay tribute to, to Jim, and as the mayor said, he was a man that gave so much of himself to the community that he loved.
J
20:03Jane SmithGUEST
You know, h- he was such an outstanding orator, um, and, you know, through his Young Farmers days, and I had a lot to do with him then throughout the regions, you know, back in the Simon Hopcroft and Robert Kempthorne days.
J
20:14Jane SmithGUEST
He was-- he just gave those competitors such a hard time in a good-humored way and gave a, you know, a, a real profile to, to that competition.
The Country Full Show: Thursday, July 30, 2026
J
3:09Jane SmithGUEST
Good afternoon, Jamie, and, um, certainly it was a lovely tribute to Jim before he headed north on his final journey to get back to his family in Canterbury this morning.
J
3:18Jane SmithGUEST
So it was just on the council chamber, um, steps, and we were all able to pay tribute to, to Jim.
J
3:24Jane SmithGUEST
And as the mayor said, he was a man that gave so much of himself to the community that he loved.
The Country 30/07/26: Jane Smith talks to Jamie Mackay
J
0:14Jane SmithGUEST
Good afternoon, Jamie, and um, certainly it was a lovely tribute to Jim before he headed north on his final journey to get back to his family in Canterbury this morning.
J
0:23Jane SmithGUEST
So it was just on the council chamber, um, steps, and we were all able to pay tribute to, to Jim, and as the mayor said, he was a man that gave so much of himself to the community that he loved, and you know, he was...
J
0:35Jane SmithGUEST
I, I was thinking this morning, he was a living, breathing thesaurus, you know? He, he was such an outstanding orator, um, and you know, through his Young Farmers days, and I had a lot to do with him then throughout the regions, you know, back in the Simon Hopcroft and Robert Kempthorne days.
J
0:50Jane SmithGUEST
He was-- he just gave those competitors such a hard time in a good-humored way, and gave a, you know, a real profile to, to that competition.
J
1:00Jane SmithGUEST
I enjoyed him as a sparring partner in, um, in council meetings when, you know, during, for example, the proposed district plan changes, and after one of those meetings, he said to me, "You know, Jane, I can't work out whether you are an asset or a liability, but you sure as hell, um, made some splendid points, but you put the council in a really difficult position." [laughs] So you know, he would acknowledge when you did challenge, challenge him, and I guess the one, one major area that Jim and I absolutely, um, you know, we, we, we, um, agreed upon was the net zero alarmism, and, and Jim understood the costs and the opportunity costs of net zero in a sort of a Armageddon sort of net zero way, and you, you'll remember this well, Jamie.
The Country Full Show: Wednesday, July 15, 2026
14:40
J
12:52Jane SmithGUEST
And Jamie, you know that I have to be heavily sedated before even looking at the wasteful expenditure, et cetera, that is, you know, taken and time taken up in regards to the extreme climate change modelling.
J
13:03Jane SmithGUEST
And I was really pleased actually to hear or to see that the Nats have finally come out of the climate change closet in the last couple of weeks.
J
13:13Jane SmithGUEST
And they've said that the climate modelling that has been used by both the Crown and local councils has been far too extreme.

Jamie MackayHOST
talking about strange bedfellows the opportunities party now if they get in rich farmers like you are going to have to pay through the nose with the land tax
The Country 15/07/26: Jane Smith talks to Jamie Mackay
2:46
J
0:53Jane SmithGUEST
And Jamie, you know that I have to be heavily sedated before even looking at the wasteful expenditure, et cetera, that is, you know, taken and time taken up in regards to the extreme climate change modelling.
J
1:05Jane SmithGUEST
And I was really pleased actually to hear or to see that the nets have finally come out of the climate change closet in the last couple of weeks.
J
1:15Jane SmithGUEST
And they've said that the climate modelling that has been used by both the Crown and local councils has been far too extreme.

Jamie MackayHOST
Now, if they get in, rich farmers like you are going to have to pay through the nose with the land tax.
Ask Us Anything: How Do You Find the Right Care for Someone With Dementia?
1:25

Jim RogersHOST
To help unpack it, here's Jane Smith, family engagement counselor at Dementia Australia.
J
1:39Jane SmithGUEST
It may be that the dementia is causing your father to experience the shower as unpleasant in some way, and that can be around changes of perception to heat and cold, a feeling of something on the skin which he can't really interpret, the noise, of course, of a shower, and all those really complicated steps of actually taking a shower, if we actually think about what that takes, that could be confusing and overwhelming.
J
2:01Jane SmithGUEST
And he might therefore not be able to effectively communicate what he's experiencing, and I guess what we're seeing is this, he is communicating.
S
5:36speaker_0UNKNOWN
So what are the options for my husband in the future as far as long-term care?
Ask Us Anything: How Do I Balance Life While Caring for My Parent with Dementia?
1:34

Jim RogersHOST
To help unpack it, here's Jane Smith, Family Engagement Counsellor at Dementia Australia.
J
1:42Jane SmithGUEST
It's a really good question and one that many young carers have raised with myself in my work and my colleagues, of course, at Dementia Australia.
J
1:51Jane SmithGUEST
There's no doubt it's a huge and invisible job with many moving parts that you have to add to your own life when that life should be about exploring new possibilities.
J
2:00Jane SmithGUEST
And let's face it, no one probably can really understand unless they've done it themselves.
S
4:56StuartAUDIENCE
I'm wondering how do any other young carers manage everything? Like between work, friends, finances, my partner, appointments and full-time workload of caring, I've got no idea how to handle it all.
Jane Smith
J
1:28Jane SmithGUEST
Well, I find that a lot of the time in historical research it's one thing leads to another, and that when you're looking at Queensland history especially, the same names keep popping up.
J
1:39Jane SmithGUEST
And I was doing research for a book that I released about seven years ago called Ship of Death, and that was about a, a ship that brought free government-assisted passengers directly from England to Moreton Bay.
J
1:56Jane SmithGUEST
The, the convict settlement was recently closed, and they were trying to build up the town with respectable white citizens, so the government sponsored people to come out.
J
2:05Jane SmithGUEST
And typhus broke out on board, and they were all quarantined at Stradbroke Island.
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Rabobank Best of The Country: June 20, 2026
30:38

Jamie MackayHOST
Talk to me, because you were at the sale, Te Mata Angus selling a bull for $168,000, beating last year's record of 161,000 to Tangihua Ang- Tangihua Angus, get it right, uh, who set the record last year.
J
30:56Jane SmithGUEST
Exactly, Jamie, and we were lucky to be at Tangihua last year because, of course, that high- highly priced bull was sired by one of our Fossil Creek bulls.
J
31:03Jane SmithGUEST
And it's just, again, I mean, I know that that's a sort of the, the, the peak of the, of, of, of the bull sales, but gosh, all of the bull sales have been strong, and that is clearly a factor of, of the positivity and the buoyancy and the, the fact that people understand that genetics are the way forward.
J
31:18Jane SmithGUEST
And, and, you know, since 1984, Jamie, we've [chuckles] had to forge our own way in this sector, and that is exactly what we've done in, in terms of efficient productivity.
J
31:26Jane SmithGUEST
And, you know, again, as a food-producing sector, um, this is happening despite all of our, you know, our sector and our, and our government trying to nail us on things, um, uh, and waste time and money on things like, um, emissions.
J
31:39Jane SmithGUEST
And, you know, uh, what actually Sainsbury and Tesco and Nestle don't understand is, is, you know, the natural carbon cycle and, and that we actually are doing our very best, um, pasture-raised, free-range, nutritionally densed, and we're not using our n- natural competitive advantage as soon as we go into those type of practices.
The Country Full Show: Wednesday, June 17, 2026
11:19

Jamie MackayHOST
a bull for $168,000, beating last year's record of $161,000, to Tangihau Angus, get it right, who set the record last year.
J
11:32Jane SmithGUEST
Exactly, Jamie, and we were lucky to be at Tangiha last year because, of course, that highly priced bull was sired by one of our Fossil Creek bulls.
J
11:39Jane SmithGUEST
And it's just, again, I mean, I know that that's sort of the peak of the bull sales, but gosh, all of the bull sales have been strong, and that is clearly a factor of the positivity and the buoyancy there.
J
11:55Jane SmithGUEST
And, you know, since 1984, Jamie, we've had to forge our own way in the sector.
J
12:03Jane SmithGUEST
And, you know, again, as a food producing sector, this is happening despite all of our sector and our government trying to nail us on things and waste time and money on things like emissions.
The Country 17/06/26: Jane Smith talks to Jamie Mackay
1:02

Jamie MackayHOST
Talk to me, because you were at the sale, Taimati Angus selling a bull for $168,000, beating last year's record of $161,000, to Tangihau Angus, get it right, who set the record last year.
J
1:21Jane SmithGUEST
And we were lucky to be at Tangiha last year because, of course, that highly priced bull was sired by one of our Fossil Creek bulls.
J
1:27Jane SmithGUEST
And it's just, again, I mean, I know that that's sort of the peak of the bull sales, but gosh, all of the bull sales have been strong.
Rabobank Best of The Country: May 30, 2026
J
34:16Jane SmithGUEST
Correct, Jamie, and I've been a bit bemused by the outrage in Auckland for their 7.9% increase when actually I guess some of our locals are celebrating a 22% rates increase.
J
34:32Jane SmithGUEST
But the sad fact is, Jamie, that anything less than 45% increase doesn't balance the books.
J
34:39Jane SmithGUEST
and so we are simply kicking the can down the road and um and disturbingly not once have i seen an austerity budget um and so many councillors asked for this and we've actually got a really good bunch of councillors they're all functioning human beings which are you know unlike some other councils in other areas of the country um but we need to cut our cloth and you know that's something that we've all been asking for and i know it's easy for someone like me with scottish presbyterian genes to see where the savings could be made but we haven't seen that yet from the CEO or senior management and again here we are seeing the unions still demanding a 2-3% pay rise with no accountability and again I just think at the moment when you're effectively insolvent all bets are off and everything needs to be looked at a lot harder Jamie and Again, I know a lot of the expectations have come from the Crown around climate mitigation, social good, connected communities.
J
35:35Jane SmithGUEST
But you can talk about connected communities, but the reality is we can't even afford to connect our basic water infrastructure, Jamie.
The Country Full Show: Thursday, May 28, 2026
J
12:02Jane SmithGUEST
Correct, Jamie, and I've been a bit bemused by the outrage in Auckland for their 7.9% increase when actually I guess some of our locals are celebrating a 22% rates increase.
J
12:18Jane SmithGUEST
But the sad fact is, Jamie, that anything less than 45% increase doesn't balance the books.
The Country 28/05/26: Jane Smith talks to Jamie Mackay
J
1:41Jane SmithGUEST
Correct Jamie and I've been a bit bemused by the outrage in Auckland for their 7.9% increase when actually I guess some of our locals are celebrating a 22% rates increase.
J
1:57Jane SmithGUEST
But the sad fact is Jamie that anything less than 45% increase doesn't balance the books.

