What is the why? What is the origin story, Jane?

Well, I'll tell my version and Dan might have a version as well.

So Dan and I were on the organizing committee for the 2015 SHPA conference in Melbourne.

At that time, I was very, I was working in medicines information and I was very involved, spending a lot of time on the Twitter, the BE version of Twitter.

And a lot of people that every time I had a suggestion for a speaker, I'd be like, oh, I heard this person on this podcast.

I saw this person on Twitter.

And so that was really where I was getting all my ideas from.

It's just you could listen to them talk all day about it, I think is super, super interesting and one of my favourite types of podcasts that we do.