So that raises the question for me, what are some of the big things or the most important things or what are the biggest reasons ports, let's say, underperform that they would need to improve on rather than just throwing money at a problem? What is, let's say, the biggest bang for buck?

Yeah, there definitely is one part that is infrastructure, its capacity.

If there's more demand and we do at times see ports get a worse CPPI because they become victims of their success.

You have more demand, then you have congestion.

And when you have congestion, then the CPPI goes down.

How many cranes do you have? How many cranes do you assign per port call? There are Practical operational side.

That is what we see in some ports in smaller, poorer, less developed countries.

Are you seeing these changes showing up in the shipping data, either in CPPI or elsewhere? Sure.