Right.

I told you I went in the book about Grimmick.

Grimmick set me up with Kono.

Apparently they had a, and this is the only time he ever did it, he must have wanted to send a message to Kono.

There was apparently a dumbbell pressing contest between Grimmick and Kona.

Was it with the hundreds, I believe? Hundreds.

One of them pressed them 17 times, and the other one pressed them 16 times.

You still hear, like I said, you still hear parents and even doctors saying that stuff.

He

said, basically, I'm going to, I think, how are you going to wrestle with your back? He said, well, I'm just going to walk around the ring, taunt the fans.

I'm going to roll in to stop them counting me out.

And I'm going to roll out, taunt the fans.

I'm going to keep that up for about eight minutes.

He said, then I'm finally going to get in and lock up with Monsoon and I'll foul him once.

And then he said, we'll lock up again.

I was just going to ask you about Mike Webster.

Yeah, so what was, were you ever at Bob Hoffman's house? Did he have a big property like what

Arthur Jones had? I was in his property up here in Lightner's Hill is where he lived in the 30s.

There were two stone homes there.

He got them built for like $30,000, Brimick told me.

which in the 1930s was a lot of money, but still, you know, that would translate well to today's dollars, really well.

And he had a, what would you call it, a nice summer house with it.

He had that swimming pool, and he kind of had a fenced-in yard up there that had some vines growing around, things like that.

They had

The drawings are just

amazing.

I mean, they pull you right in.

I think I figured this out, and I don't care if it's York, I don't care if it's Weider, any of these guys, go back to Lederman and Mailer, of course, they had some very talented all-around guy that could write, that could draw, that could maybe even do drafting, design equipment and things like that, various kinds of artwork, painting.

Gordon was that guy here.

A guy like E.M. Orlick would have been Weider's guy for a while.

I don't know to what extent...

Mississippi,