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So I s- I sort of kind of internalized a lot of that, and I remember saying to my mum that I wanted to go to university, and then she sort of told me since that she's sort of reflecting on that being like, "I don't know if that's gonna be for you." And so I definitely felt like the black sheep of the family, definitely affected my self-esteem, and I think even...

I mean, not so much now, but, like, certainly a few years ago, there would be times where something would happen where I would make a mistake while driving or I would be late for something and I would really just, like, spiral because it would kind of just trigger some sort of, "You're just stupid and effectless and you're an idiot." My self-esteem would still be sort of so tied to some of those early neuropathways, uh, that were drawn.

I ultimately was lucky though, 'cause I had a good outcome academically from school, whereas I think if you, if you haven't had that, you're always carrying that around, especially if you hadn't had a diagnosis.

I think you're just gonna be quite resentful.

Mm

... then you can really put in targeted intervention.

And we've got quite a lot of schools now who use the tool as a, a y- a year three baseline screener.