I like that.

I mean, I'm anti-getting scammed.

I probably am, like, in a weird sort of masochistic way, pro-scam.

Like, it's interesting to me.

Hence loving this podcast.

But...

I was scammed.

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And so Twigs

has over 10 different flavors in Chano that we bottle, 75 years.

And another, the next one, is the lime.

And it is bright green again.

This is really refreshing in the summer, in the fall, anytime.

But again, can you imagine bringing this to a tailgate party? Nice green shots before the game.

Smells like candy.

So it's been

You guys became a draw overnight with that show.

It was so crazy because...

Something that I don't think people know about that show is that when we auditioned, I didn't know what I was auditioning for.

I was told it was going to be on MTV.com. And so when I went in and I had some jokes prepared, I remember thinking that was a really fun audition.

But I remember being like, put us for MTV.com. I'm like, what is it going to be? Oh, and I remember they were like, yeah, actually, you know what? It might not be on MTV.com.

It might be on MTV, too.

And I was like, oh, that's kind of cool.

The big, the first

Back in the day, it was, what was it promoted as initially?

Initially, in the 1950s, Sundrop was the golden cola, refreshing as a cup of coffee, and it was Golden G- Girl Cola, and that's kinda where I got the idea of becoming the Sundrop girl, doing the old-fashioned-

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And all the other flavors, there's, there's something for everyone.

It's a family company.

It's celebrating 75 years.

America's celebrating 250 years, so perfect time to try all these flavors.

Well, they

did.

I, no one told me what they ruled it.

Um, but in her obituary, there was a line that said she struggled with, um, this thing called nephrotic syndrome, um, which I found out you don't die from.

And also she never mentioned having any kind of syndrome to me ever.

So it was just always sort of inconclusive and suspicious.

And I was in college, so I didn't really know anything about like asking questions.

Trent did not go to Trent

Tell us what happened.

She didn't disappear.

She died very mysteriously and suddenly.

She died in her sleep, um, when she was 18 years old, and that's not how 18-year-olds die, and it was all just very suspicious.

And, um, this was back in 2004, and I feel like no one was really...

I mean, no one talks about death now, but back then it was even worse.

Like, no one was discussing anything, and so it was kind of swept under the rug, which was also really suspicious.

Yeah.

So she was a college friend or a home friend?

Um, no, from home.

Um, we worked at the same summer camp together and, um, yeah, she b- she sort of mysteriously suddenly passed away when I was in college.

Um, very shocking.

Uh, and essentially what happened was I just never knew how or why she died, and there were definitely some suspicious things that I sort of was wondering slash, like, kinda simmering on, but I never did anything about it.

I just kind of, like, accepted it and-

A mom

...

Okay.

But yeah, she passed away very suddenly, very mysteriously, and, um, I never really understood what happened.

I definitely had, like, my theories, my suspicions.

Um, but I think that this was, like, 20 years ago, so that was at a time when I don't think anyone was talking about mental health or honestly, no one was even talking about, like, true crime or, like, there was just not a lot of curiosity in the zeitgeist at that time.

And I feel like now with podcasts and stuff, like, people start to realize, like, oh, there are actually, like, a lot of conversations that you could be having.

And so anyways, at the time, I sort of, like, put it aside, tried to move on, and then, um, basically 20 years later, I ended up going back to Dallas, Texas, and trying to investigate what happened to her.

And I actually, um, brought, like, a documentary, a guy named Alex Hammer, who's this, like, brilliant director.

You got a vibe.

It's just so weird.

And also, again, it's like the issue here, I think what they're, they're not, they're just kind of being like-They're kind of talking generally about dirty talk, but, like, this guy also doesn't shut the fuck up, and that to me is the larger issue.

I actually don't think Miranda has that...

I don't think she's that, like, has difficulty expressing herself-

Yes.

But she wears it decoratively, and it's like, it's like multi-colored.

And it reminds me that, I think it was The Gap had, like, those scarves that they were, like, pushing at one point around...

Like, maybe this was, like, early 2000s.

Did you go home?

Oh, yeah.

I spoke at the funeral.

Um, I ended up saying at the funeral, like, in front of everybody, "This is so fucked up that we're here right now." I was so angry, and, um, yeah, it was definitely, like, not my proudest moment, but I, I didn't really know what to say because I was in such shock.

Um, and then I really, uh, kinda just pushed it down and tried to, like, chug along in life.

And then when my dad died in 2021, I had this sort of reckoning where I was like, wait, I know how my dad died, of a heart attack, um, but the last person I lost who was close to me, uh, I don't know how she died.

So it kind of sent me into this spiral where I was like, "I need to get to the bottom of this," 'cause, like, I am not healed from what happened to Katie.

... my own mini-doc? You get-

And that's what I like about women

...

I think comedians, you naturally have to be, it, I don't, yeah, I mean, I think you, to a degree, have to be open-minded, and you also have to be a little bit flexible just with this type of career.

Like, I think artists are, like, even though...

It's so funny to speak about this 'cause there are so many comedians who I can think of right now who go against what I'm saying.

But, like, you are an artist, and your brain works in a certain way, and I forgot what I was saying.

Oh my God, wait.

Yeah, was it like this? Or was it like-

Yeah.

So I was like, "This won't be hard." And then that was, that was a whole thing, where, like, I call the office.

It was, she sold her practice to somebody else.

That person wouldn't even call me back.

I find out she moved.

Then me and my, like, producing group, we all went to visit her where she now lives and stayed with them for the weekend.

And I asked all the questions I needed to ask, and it was, like, this big emotional, yeah, whirlwind.

69.

What did he teach you about investing?

Oh my gosh, Philippe, so much.

It's hard, it's hard to even boil it.

So, uh, I'll give you a bunch of four examples, uh, because he taught me so much, and his brother Thomas as well.

Um, Philippe, Philippe is a, is a true savant in terms of boiling down very, very complicated things into, into the two or three things that really, really matter.

And so the...

I'll give you a, you know, sort of a hypothetical and then an actual.

What else did you learn from Philippe?

But y- you're more, you're not a car, you're a person, and you're hosting a show called The Wedding Coach.

Yes, I am hosting a show called The Wedding Coach.

Yeah, 'cause when I was getting married, I felt like it was just a really, like, unnecessarily stressful time, and I felt like no one was really talking about that side of it.

Everybody was just kind of, like, excited about, like, you know, tasting cakes and picking out a dress and decorations, and no one was really talking about, like, the merging of families and how stressful that could be.

So I wanted to write a book, yeah.

Um-

But yeah, no, I just felt like all of the wedding shows I was watching were very serious, and there was just no one trying to, like, merge comedy with weddings.

And I was like, "God, there's just so much comedy to be mined here." So I was really excited to, like, make a show that (laughs) not to, like, toot my own horn, but I was like, "It's kinda groundbreaking." Like, no one's doing it, so I'm excited to hopefully pioneer-

Oh.

And all of the neighbors thought Gypsy was likely dead too, because without the care of her mother, how could she even function? Like, she's so dependent on her mother's care, there's no way, um, that she could survive on her own.

Okay.

But then, remember our friend Amy Pinegar, the daugh- uh, the, uh, neighbor? Well, her daughter, Aleah, had some info.

She was like a big sister to Gypsy, um, but unfortunately they were rarely alone together as Gypsy's mother was always by her side and very overprotective.

So when Gypsy wanted to have real talk and confide in Aleah, it was through a secret Facebook account under the name Emma Rose.

And Aleah told the cops that Gypsy had met a guy named Nicholas Godejohn on a Christian singles site.

Tell me, baby.