That dubiousness on the return, do you think that that creates opportunities for Democrats to maybe attack this issue from another angle? I

think what we're seeing in our research at the Center for Shared AI Prosperity is that Americans are really seeing pain down both economic paths.

So if AI lives up to the hype, they're worried about losing their jobs.

If AI doesn't live up to the hype, They're worried about ordinary people getting wiped out in a crash.

And I think maybe that can sound like a bit of a contradiction.

You know, like, how can Americans both be worried that the technology is so powerful, it's going to take their job away, but also so overinflated that it might crash the economy? And I think I would just say that Americans are not necessarily making a bet about the technology itself.

They are telling us that they think this technology is emerging in a very rigged economy and that there is not a serious plan to protect their economic well-being in either scenario.

And that's just like a very hard policy needle to thread.

So could you talk a little bit about what you see there and what threat that poses So

Trump signs this day one executive order that you've just described, Tim.

And at its most basic level, what it is attempting to do is erase recognition of gender within the federal government altogether.

So it says it is the policy of the United States that there are only two sexes, men and women.

And the mere recognition of gender identity, the mere recognition that some people have an identity different than those two categories threatens the stability of the nation.

You know, that is the framework of this executive order.

I just have to say as an aside, that it's very hard to imagine anything that is more un-American than the government attempting to dictate the most intimate parts of our lives like this.

Hundreds.

If you could just explain your, uh, general thesis at the top before we go on.

on.So I think we all know that the safety net is under attack.

You know, Trump has literally financed this massive transfer of wealth upwards by cutting off healthcare and food assistance for the poor.

It's very draconian.

But my argument is that even before these attacks started, the safety net really was broken.

And it's true that millions of people rely on safety net programs, but the safety net has really been eroded by neoliberal policy design.

You know, I think neoliberalism has told us that if we deregulated markets and we privatized public services, then wealth would, like, magically trickle down from the top of our economy, and it would alleviate poverty.

Uh, uh, could you talk a little bit about, about what the difference between a safety net and a power base is?