Putting all your eggs in one basket in terms of the traditional nine to five seems to be a very shaky and less secure alternative in the 2026 situations.

You know, it's true.

It's really true.

We used to think that that was safe, right? And that would bring security.

And I'm super grateful for my corporate career.

There's benefits of leadership development programs and just career growth and kind of constructs like that.

But the truth is that...

What's your sort of take on that? Again, being in California where you're at the sharp end of the spear in terms of the developments, it'd be great to have your inputs from what you think, but also what you're hearing around town.

Yeah

... that was kind of it.

And then I, I just started on this path.

I, I think, um, I w- w- one of the instrumental steps was I left Four Seasons because I moved up to Orange County, uh, for a while and, um, I took a job with Ingersoll Rand, and it was such a great organization.

Uh, they had really structured leadership de...

I had done leadership development program at Four Seasons and then, um, Ingersoll Rand had like an emerging leader.

They had, you know, multiple levels of leadership development, and I was part of their emerging leader program.

Hm.

So when the CHRO hears gig, they hear a workaround and not a, not a strategy.

It's fascinating.

So I, I actually call them, I've coined it, um, executive entrepreneurs, and I think that it's a really different thing than someone who is in between jobs and is willing to take a gig.

There's nothing wrong with that.

It's just different.

These are people who were so successful in whatever they were doing.

In our case, they were all former executives.

They hire the FTE, and then they start asking what, what can AI do to help and, and then they wonder, "Okay, how do I handle this other work that everyone's already super busy and we can't get to?"