Somebody working in traditional oncology and then seeing the need and seeing the importance of it, you know, what, what made you kind of move in this direction?

Well, you know, one thing, I was always fascinated by hypnosis.

For whatever-- I was fa- fascinated by hypnosis and, uh, magicians when I was, when I was a kid.

So maybe my s-- maybe if I had a different career, I would've been a magician, you know? Uh, a stage magician.

But, um, but you know, I was a first responder to 9/11.

Obviously traumatic to me, right? And then I'm taking care of children who have cancers and interacting with their parents on a regular basis, right? And so I saw the tr-- I, I equated the trauma that they experienced with the trauma that I experienced after 9/11.

So I always was very cognizant of it, recognizing it, and as time went on, um, you know, after 20 some years, it became very noticeable that there was more that we could do for patients than just, let's say, operate and run, right? There's more that I could do for them in my practice, and I'm often the first person, or my team is the first people who touch and greet this patient, right? So, um, so I did-- I studied a lot about...

Yeah.

Wow.

So my practice was super busy.

My practice alone required probably 70 to 80 hours of me in the hospital between the OR and the office, and I did all the other work on top of that, and we did very well.

But good program, but a lot of work.

And I neglected my health for the last, let's say, 10 years or so.

A couple years prior to it, I wasn't doing my cardiovascular exercise, and I would see the doctor.

My blood pressure would be routinely 140 over 90, but nobody would put me on an antihypertensive because they would look at me, they would see that my arms were relatively muscular, and they'd say, "Oh, you must be, must be healthy." My cholesterol was always around 200.

What have you done, knowing your deep thinking and optimizing your health, what have you done to regulate your sleep?

And, and, and talk a bit about that, how you evolved or came to this.

Well, I personally always had a fascination with the brain and how the brain can influence your health.

Uh, the brain controls, uh, the body.

I always had a fascination with hypnosis and neurofeedback.

And, you know, there's, um...

When, when we do studies on different types of drugs to see if they work, we do randomized controlled trials, often with a placebo, right? And a patient can get a placebo and, uh, you know, maybe you give the placebo to 100 patients and 100 other patients get the pill, and still 30 or 40 patients out of the 100 will respond to the placebo, showing you that there's a tremendous effect that the brain can have on the body.

So that's always been a big interest of mine, as well as just, like, figuring out, like, why are people developing cancer? What are all the, the basic root causes of cancer? Looking at a functional approach to patients' health, as well as how it, how to optimize it.

Talk a bit about where that comes from a- and how you can inspire others, 'cause I think that is just remarkable.