That's the promise.

Yeah.

That's the promise.

And I think it's gonna be, you know...

You, you can't be wrong.

[laughs]

What do you mean?

Well, as you know more, you know, uh, as you can make more and more drugs, understand cancer and all that, uh, I think human life has improved over the last, you know, the quality of...

But with asbestos, there was a false start, wasn't there? It was the rush that wasn't.

Yeah, exactly.

So the asbestos history in Australia goes way back to the 1870s.

So the gold rushes, as I imagine many listeners would know and at least know a little bit of, they start in the 1850s.

But already by the end of the 1860s, much of the gold in Victoria and New South Wales has been dug up by prospectors and people are looking around for something new.

And so they look for things like copper and silver.

You know, there's the famous discoveries in Broken Hill.

that's 80 years before it was banned.

Hilton for the stay

It was just nuclear science.

And, uh, oh, that's the book, little book.

You can read it in about two hours.

And, uh, but then I went to a meeting in Italy and, uh, uh, there was [laughs] an unexpected speaker who wasn't on the program, and he talked about DNA.

This was Maurice Wilkins.

He was trained as a physicist, and after the war he wanted to do biophysics, and he picked DNA because DNA had been shown at the Rockefeller Institute to possibly be the genetic molecules on the chromosomes.

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