Right

... no, just, just, just for change work, for just helping people make significant changes in their lives.

Um, and then you can start because it, it does, it, you know, you're, you're not just going, "It's conversational hypnosis." There's all of those understandings underneath, which is said in the audios.

Erickson had a lot of understandings about how human beings worked, what sorts of patterns tended to work well for human beings, what didn't, you know? And, and he could, he could X-ray somebody's current reality and go, "Wow, I can see how that's causing limitation and pain, and I can see where it's bound up," you know, and make a good bet that if we, if we do it like this instead, this person's gonna get freedom.

So he's helping somebody make that adjustment.

You know, he's not saying, "Here's how you have to be," but he's making a bet on here's gonna be a good way to be, and he's introducing that bet that he's making to the person's personalized creative intelligence to adapt in their own way.

You know, so there's a bit of a negotiation, a co-creation, but it's not done blindly.

Hmm

Mm.

So, you know, the way we've been as human beings is when there's a relatively, you know, relatively stable world, you get to pick the context you want to adapt to, adapt to be functional in that context, and you're good to go.

But the trouble we have in this modern world is these contexts keep changing, so more and more we have a requirement to connect with adaptiveness and ability to adapt within ourselves, you know, to new e- environments.

So there's that side of it and I have a particular interest to this because, you know, like we are charged with showing up in this crazy world and making a, you know, a good go of things.

That's what, you know, that's what...

That is the burden that we all carry or perhaps the, the joy that we all carry depending on how you look at it.

But I, I will also say, 'cause you mentioned this idea about the eye of the storm, you see, um, and that brought up two personal mantras for me or organizing principles that I've had for a long time.

Mm