Who are the superstars that have really surprised you, perhaps in a good way?

Yeah, so Robert Downey Jr.

He was one of my favourites.

You know, if you remember when Iron Man first came out, that was like a salvation moment for his career.

He had been a superstar.

He had had a fall from grace.

The movie company put a big risk, like they risked everything on him as their superstar.

So in the vein of kindness, what would your encouragement be to those who are struggling, but also to those who in the spirit of service, as we've been discussing, what would your encouragement be to encourage those to get out of their own way and find ways to engage with the community to give back?

Yeah.

Why is it that you're so passionate about these? Well, this one is a great one because all of the Tour de Cure stuff...

So the kids get involved, families get involved, but sort of from the sideline.

This one, they're part of it.

So you bring the kids or you bring your run club, you come down to Allianz Stadium, like the Sydney Football Stadium, the Sydney Cricket Ground, and it's as serious or as fun as you want it.

5K, 6K, 10K, you can do two hours if you want.

But it's more about getting involved.

And