... and then NICFM Services are, are supporters where it's important that money, it enables the sport to exist because it is, in by its very nature, is expensive.

It is, absolutely, and any sponsor we get, and, and I'll go out there and be knocking on doors trying to get big names in, but, like, Caddick have been great with us the past couple years.

They've, they've been our chief sponsor on the shirt and, and they've really helped us out.

But the cost of just hall hire.

It's not like we can just go get a bit of grass somewhere.

We need sports halls, uh, which come with a certain cost, and then you're competing with other indoor sports for those venues as well.

Training times, you know, you can't just go ring someone and be like, "Can we use your outdoor pitch? We need an indoor facility." But yeah, like Caddick have been fantastic with us.

Mm.

I love it.

Uh, I, I...

Yeah, I, you know, a- when I became an economist, really I looked at it from the economic angle, because at that time, you know, the, uh, Nicaraguan Sandinistas were fighting the Contras, and there was a big controversy of, of Reagan, uh, supplying them with money.

And then we had the Iran-Contra affair where, you know, we were, uh, getting money from Iran and, and selling them missiles or whatever it was, and, uh, uh, using it to pay the Contras, because the Contras were fighting the Sandinistas.

And of course, we had the Salvadoran Civil War, and nobody talks about the Guatemalan Civil War.

All of these things were instigated by Castro.

And, um, so I'm thinking to myself, "What is this obsession with communism? Why is everybody, uh, so determined that this is such a great idea when the Soviet example, the communist Chinese example, show that this is a suicidal [laughs] ideology? Literally, a, a, a genocidal ideology.

It's a war ar- around freedom, and certainly there are a number of battlefronts, and I think the spiritual battlefront is probably the main one, and you are agreeing that, "Hey, it's, it's, it's prayer time." So give us your perspective on why prayer is your number one strategy for what we do about this problem.

What I've never been able to understand, Jim, and maybe you can help me understand this, is why? Is it just so they could be the monarchs? Just so they could sit at the throne and rule over all of us? Why hate capitalism, freedom, and liberty? I don't understand what the problem is.

Well, you know, it really is pretty hard to understand, frankly.

And as I have said in an earlier book, you know, before they had actually ever implemented it in any nation, they could fantasize all they wanted about how wonderful their utopian future would be and how terrible capitalism was.

And, you know, during the Industrial Revolution in Britain, you know, there were people starving and it wasn't a universally attractive picture.

And then, of course, we had the czars in Russia and, you know, the kings who basically owned pretty much everything and everybody else had to get along with what they could.

So, you know, the picture of that world at that time, didn't look all that good but the fact of the matter is that all the people that were so upset about it well for one thing the great britain example wasn't a result of free market capitalism the great britain result was the direct result of government policy where governments ordered people out of the countryside into the cities to fill the factories and uh and then of course you know wages plummeted and there was a lot of very poor people but it was government policy it wasn't free market capitalism and that's where they get a lot of these things wrong karl marx was wrong about practically everything but the funniest thing about him was that he came from a wealthy family and if you look at all of these people they were all spoiled brat rich kids of wealthy parents

They think that they're above us.

Absolutely.