I'd imagine it's, shit's pretty cutthroat over there.

Yeah, no, definitely.

It's really cutthroat.

Um, you know, I think you mentioned it before, it goes 18s, 21s, first team, and even if you're one of the best players in the 21s, s- especially at a club like United, it's really cutthroat to get those opportunities with the first team.

And I think that's anywhere you go, though.

That's just football, you know.

You need to be, um, on top of your game every single week, every single game, to keep your place in the team.

Uh, all, all of those things?

I'd imagine she's pretty cutthroat over there.

Yeah, no, definitely.

It's really cutthroat.

I think you mentioned it before, it goes 18-21 first team and even if you're one of the best players in the 21s, especially at a club like United that's really cutthroat to get those opportunities with the first team.

And I think that's anywhere you go, though.

That's just football.

You know, you need to be on top of your game every single week, every single game to keep your place in the team.

You don't go in and you put it this way, you stay on your feet when Bruno Fernandes has got the ball at his feet in a little five-a-side game, all of those things?

Can you give us a bit more of an insight into sort of who instigated those conversations and how they went down?

I think the initial instigation was obviously by me.

You know, I wanted to go on loan and play professional football.

You know, you have your end of season meetings every year and I sat down with Fletch and a few of the coaches and they obviously said, like, academy football's not going to bring you much anymore.

Like, we think you should...

Got on loan and then I had, you know, loan options in England, Europe, etc.

But I think the best one was Sydney.

How hard was it to say goodbye to them? And also, what actually is it like at 18 to pack up your life again and come back to Australia?

I'd imagine she's pretty cutthroat over there.

Yeah, no, definitely.

It's really cutthroat.

I think you mentioned it before, it goes 18-21 first team and even if you're one of the best players in the 21s, especially at a club like United, it's really cutthroat to get those opportunities with the first team.

And I think that's anywhere you go, though.

That's just football.

You know, you need to be on top of your game every single week, every single game to keep your place in the team.

Lucas Herrington, I don't know if you know him personally, but what do you make of what he's been able to do at the very top level three games in with Hull City?

I'd imagine she's pretty cutthroat over there.

Yeah, no, definitely.

It's really cutthroat.

I think you mentioned it before, it goes 18-21 first team and even if you're one of the best players in the 21s, especially at a club like United that's really cutthroat to get those opportunities with the first team.

And I think that's anywhere you go, though.

That's just football.

You know, you need to be on top of your game every single week, every single game to keep your place in the team.

Lucas Herrington, I don't know if you know him personally, but what do you make of what he's been able to do at the very top level three games in with Hull City?

I'd imagine she's pretty cutthroat over there.

Yeah, no, definitely.

It's really cutthroat.

I think you mentioned it before, it goes 18-21 first team and even if you're one of the best players in the 21s, especially at a club like United that's really cutthroat, to get those opportunities with the first team.

And I think that's anywhere you go, though.

That's just football.

You need to be on top of your game every single week, every single game, to keep your place in the team.

Lucas Herrington, I don't know if you know him personally, but what do you make of what he's been able to do at the very top level three games in with Hull City?