Mm-hmm.

And, um, but he had known for a long time about Catholic Central through, um, Mr. Babicz Senior.

And so, uh, I played football, and I think for years he had kinda been in my dad's ear, like, they call me Jimmy 'cause my dad's Jim too.

They're like, "You should send Jimmy to Catholic Central.

You should send Jimmy to Catholic Central." And he's kinda like, "Yeah, yeah, yeah, whatever." Um, but then, uh, he was, my dad, um...

Looking back, like, it was definitely a work of the Holy Spirit, just didn't know who the Holy Spirit was, which a- as you'll see as my story unfolds, is a very, uh, common theme of the Spirit working in my life, um, in our family's lives.

But, uh, so for, to me it seemed like, um, very strange, and it was far away from where I lived.

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