Then what happened when you got to the window of the car?

I asked him for his driver's license, being professional.

And he just, he was frozen.

He had a frozen stare out the windshield.

His hands were tightly gripping the steering wheel.

He says very slowly, "I don't have it." And so I j- I knew.

I, I, I knew that drinking or drugs was involved, and I was gonna investigate that.

The department said he'd violated their policy on pursuits, turning off his red and blue lights at the wrong time.