So James, James Lee, what did you think of today? What did you think of, well more importantly, what did you think of last night?

Today's been great you know it's it's great to get together with everybody listen to you know it's a fast-moving industry there's always a new challenge always a new solution even and always just different collaborations that people are exploring so always great to hear progress updates on what people are working on how different pilots are going new ways of solving some of the challenges that we've been facing in the industry so it's been great to be with everybody It's like being around old friends.

And you were in the procurement roundtable, weren't you? What were some of the interesting things that struck you listening to procurement professionals and sustainability professionals discuss the challenges? Was there anything that stuck out for you?

You know, I think one of the things that stuck out for me, it was a good group, a very diverse group of people and It was interesting to hear some people say, oh, this is the problem and this is the challenge.

And then other people say, that's not a challenge for me.

And I don't think so.

And what I've realized is I think it just so much depends on the context that you're in, the kind of company that you're in, the size of it, the industry that you're in.

And I think sometimes we just jump on these kind of superlative type of things.