So talk about, I guess, stuff and the setting and the mechanics around stuff.

Yeah, so I was really, you know, Ben Milton's Knave, right, has this great sort of concept of like, your equipment um really defines you as a as a character and what i love about that particularly for a dungeon crawling game is it's like how do you become a wizard right well in dnd you go fight monsters and you level up and your experience track says now you get to learn more spells and you have more spells per day and yeah maybe you might find some spells you can copy into your spell book but you're guaranteed right um And a game like Knave or like Crows, right, says like, if you have a spell book, you can cast, you can attempt to cast the spells in it.

And maybe like a guy who's got a high mind stat is better at it than a guy who's got a negative mind stat, right? But the guy with the negative mind stat can try.

They're not barred from it.

Right.

Anybody with this thing can try to become a wizard.

And so that means, OK, well, now I want to carry as many spell books as I possibly can.

Guess who we turn it around on and say,